LULA - Flow News #077
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Greetings everyone, welcome to another Flow. I'm Igor, and today I'm in a different place here, man. I'm at the President of the Republic's house, which is right next to mine. Thank you, Lula, for receiving me here in your house, where the president lives, man. Hey, how's it going? Have you ever had coffee with this? I've already
had coffee. Did they serve cheese balls? Cheese bread? I ate cheese bread. I ate a hamburger. And he was treated very well here by his team, you know? This is how we treat people all over Brazil. Calm. That's how we [laughs] treat the people. Okay then , but it's a pleasure to have you at home. It's
a pleasure. Thank you, Lu. I understand the seriousness of your work and I'm at your disposal to ask you any question you want, in any way you want, whatever you want. The program is yours, I'm your guest. Can I jump into that pool? Yes, you can dive in. [laughs] After we finish here, we'll take the whole
team and jump in there. Did you hear that, fatty? It ends here. We can all jump in that pool. It 's OK. But, Mr. President, let's start by talking seriously. So why the hell are you here with me and not at the Globo debate? Because I like you more than I like Globo. Let me tell you what the concrete data is
. I've been questioning Globo's debates for a while now, okay? I went to all of them. [snoring] I went in '80, in 2002, in '89, when I had 10 candidates, 15 candidates. Well, then when 1994 arrived, there was no debate because Globo [TV network] supported Fernando Henrique Cardoso's election and didn't want a debate
so as not to expose Fernando Henrique Cardoso. There was no debate in '94, nor in '98. It's important to remember. Then in 2002 there was a debate, you know? I went to the second round with Serra, you know? It was a good debate because I prefer the second-round debate to be a one-on-one situation where
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