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[Music] welcome back to session number six we just finished God commits to handle Vengeance for you now a harder question how can God forgive anyone for everything and at the same time as he forgives anyone for everything he turns right around and says if you don't forgive your brother from your heart neither

will I forgive you how on Earth does that work that's what we're going to try and answer and how can God forgive anyone for everything part one how does God personally experience our Disobedience that's question one cuz forgiveness right happens because you were wounded if you're not wounded why do you need to

forgive I wasn't wounded today I don't need to forgive anybody today of something that happened today so here's the question underlying all this what makes God need to forgive answer we wounded him we went I wounded him you wounded him so let's go through the points here how does God personally experience our

Disobedience look at the verse in Acts 17 Paul is preaching in Greece and he says and he made God made from one blood Adam every nation of men to dwell on the face of the Earth and he has determined their pre-appointment times and the boundaries of their dwellings where the different nations shall live he decided

that they didn't so that they should seek the Lord that's what his purpose was in the hope that they would grope for him and find him though he's not very far from each one of us read the rest of that sentence therefore since we are The Offspring of God what read that again therefore since we

are The Offspring of God if you reading the Gospel of Luke when God made Adam he called him the son of God God not Jesus Christ the Eternal Son of God but God if I can say it this way had a baby called Adam not through a woman but through fashioning him out of dust then

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breathing in the Breath of Life himself that's what made him a son cuz he put himself into Adam and then when his Spirit came into the Dust when it joined together that's where our soul came from our soul is what brings these two things together so what are we we are a spirit who lives in a body who has a

soul and God says I am the father of all Spirits so when you think about God forgiving you must understand the truth of it is every human being is The Offspring of God that's what this says therefore since we are The Offspring of God not the converted offspring of God but we are The Offspring of god good

that sets you up to understand the potential to be hurt Point number two God views our Disobedience as directly against him personally why he's our father number two God views our Disobedience as directly against him personally and I put four illustrations of this through the Bible I'll never forget finding Ezekiel chapter 6:9 When God says I was

crushed I was crushed by their adulterous heart which had debarted from me and by their eyes which they play the Harlot after other Idols when I read God saying I was crushed I had to put the Bible down not too many times in my life have I said I was crushed you can only be C crushed by

somebody you love Until you realize who you are to God and how he feels about you you don't recognize how hard it is for God to forgive us number two out of Genesis 6 then the Lord saw the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every intent and thoughts of his heart was only evil continually

and the Lord was sorry that he made man on the earth and he was grieved in his heart Psalm 95 for 40 years I was grieved with that generation for 40 years long time 2.3 last sentence there my heart churns within me my sympathy said God is stirred and God wants to bless us in 2.4 God

deeply desires obedience oh that they had us such a heart in them that they would fear me and always keep all my Commandments that it might be well with them and their children forever what does he want he wants wonderful things for his kids okay point three God experiences our neglect our neglect and Rebellion with

grief and sorrow grief and sorrow so how does God experience our Disobedience ah as a loving father whose children Rebel at the deepest levels he gets crushed part number two how did God react and judge our sin and our rebellion and we have a number of points about this four of them number one God

viewed us because of our rebellion and sin against him as his enemies look at the passage beneath it while we were still Sinners when we were enemies enemies we chose to rebel against the almighty God who is our heavenly father and he viewed us as enemies number two oh boy gets worse Ephesians chapter 2 and you he

made alive who were dead in trespasses and sin in which you once walked according to the course of this world now read these words carefully according to the prince of the power of the air wait wait wait I walked I walked according to the prince of the power of the air which is Satan

yes I did so did you the spirit who now works in the sons of Disobedience now did all of us once walk according to Satan yes look at the rest of that verse among whom also we all all everybody once conducted ourselves in the lust of our flesh fulfilling the desires of the

Flesh and of the mind and we were by Nature read it to me children of Wrath next verse he who believes in the son has everlasting life and he who does not believe the son shall not see life read it to me but the wrath of God abides on him so how does God

feel a deeply point two God felt wrath God felt wrath toward us due to our willful Disobedience so God doesn't have neutral feelings toward us we are we become his enemies we walk according to his enemy called Satan and he has wrath toward us because of it now here's a major crisis point point

point three genesis chapter 2 and the Lord God commanded Adam the man saying of every tree of the garden you may freely eat but of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil you shall not eat for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die therefore number three God decreed

from creation from the beginning of everything that Disobedience results in the death penalty whoa what what is that can you imagine in um in war in which the general says you know go into battle and go this way and we run away what do they do when the person disobeys the general they shoot

him here comes almighty God and says if you don't do what I say as your creator you're going to die yeah how big of a deal was this to God very big and how he must have felt great pain at the thought of his children dying over this now number four talks about God's

justice God's justice required the same sins result in the same penalty or else he's not just look at this for a minute God is just if this person does this sin and gets this penalty Justice Means somebody else who does the same thing this person did must get the same penalty all right look at the verse

beneath it for if God did not spare the Angels who sinned but cast them down to Hell and delivered them into the chains of Darkness to be reserved for judgment what did the Angels do they sinned and they're cast into hell it says Matthew 25 then he will say also to those on the left hand depart from me

you cursed into the Everlasting fire now read these words out loud with me prepared for the devil and his angels look up here why did God make hell not for people he made hell for the Angels which are also called Sons they're of a different kind but they're sons and when they rebelled and did exactly the

opposite of what he said some of them were cast right into hell so when we who are his sons and daughters rebel against him he gives the same judgment which is I'm casting you into the fire that I made for those angels because you did the same Rebellion they did woo look at the next verse and the dead

were judged this is the final judgment there is according to their works by the things which were written in the books and the Sea gave up the Dead who were in it in death and hat delivered up the Dead who were in them and they were judged each one according to his works

then death and Hades was cast into the Lake of Fire this is the second death and anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the Lake of Fire okay what are we trying to deal with here how did God react and judge our sin and Rebellion answer he viewed it

extremely severe and he said if you if you decide to disobey me you're going to die not only are you going to die but you're going to get the same judgment as another race called angels have gotten when they rebelled against me and they got thrown into a place I made for them

forever and if you do the same sin they do you're going to go on the same place that they do wow okay now part three how did God handle his grief and wounds by his children how did he handle them well number one God kept his holy heart open to all of us and sought a just

solution what do I mean by that what do we do when we're wounded we close our heart we get angry we get bitter we slander we have resentment we have hatred what God did is he kept his heart open even against what we did against him even though he had wrath and he had

judgment now when God decrees this is the way it is it is the way that it is so when a person says when you talk to them about whether or not they're going to go to heaven or not and you say to them why do you think you'll get into heaven they'll say something like this pretty typical

well I'm not perfect but I'm not as bad as some people and I try to do some good things from time to time so if you thought about it fully it would mean when that person came before the judge and the judge says to this person uh did you ever sin and willfully rebel against

me well yes I did do you remember the penalty that's there from the beginning and the wages of sin is death it's never changed do you remember the penalty yes do you remember it's the death penalty yes and did you just like the Angels rebel against me and with my Justice I sent them to Hell therefore

where are you going to be sent I'm going to be sent to hell but God yes I've also done many good works please take that into account do you think sir that your good works will take care of the death penalty the penalty wasn't that you do more good things than bad things the penalty is you die and if you

think I'm going to change that after all these years I'm sorry all your good works are worthless toward this penalty whoa that's for everything that I'm hoping will make it up with God doesn't make it up why the penalty is the same you're going to

die that's why God said your good works are worthless they're not really worthless but they're worthless to save you from the death penalty therefore who Among Us hasn't sinned and hasn't rebelled and doesn't have the death penalty hanging over our heads and how do you fix that you can't there is no fix once the glass is broken it's broken

if you sinned once willfully against God you got the death penalty you mean there's no hope no there isn't Until you realize there is no hope you'll never understand what God did next because can I fix the death penalty I can't if I run back and say I'm so sorry he says yeah but you willfully

rebelled against me many times and that's the death penalty well I did all these good things that's wonderful but that's still not the death penalty Until you realize ah all have sinned and come short of the glory of God and we don't have a hope left left and God feels we are his enemies

and we walked according to the prince of the power of the air and he felt wrath toward us ah and he judged us fairly it's not until you get to that point do you understand what God did next I'll never forget when I was working over in Russia and Ukraine and Estonia training many many

people they asked me to speak at a big conference on the Black Sea and I wanted to swim in the black SE and I was there and I came in after one of the sessions and there was a bunch of people from the conference there and I was swimming and there were four principles

of a schools that were talking over here it was for educators and they kind of worked their way down to me and the lady said I have always wanted to talk to you why why it's because of my father your father my 90-year-old Jewish father when you made those Bible courses for us on sin and salvation you had a

session about Sin and you didn't give the answer to sin except we're lost and we have no hope she said my 90-year-old Jewish father was in the living with all of us watching this and when you taught those verses do you know what my father did no he fell on his knees begging God to

forgive him for his sins because he had no hope I said that's what I wanted to happen I know cuz my father went to bed crying and the next day he got up and he said are there any other of these videos and they put the one in called salvation and when he found God solution

to his hopeless circumstance she said my father fell on his knees and trusted Jesus and is born again but had he not realized he didn't have a hope he never would have embraced salvation Until you realize how far we have fallen and what it did to God's heart oh okay next point God's solution must pay the death

penalty by a sinless substitution because God loved us even though in the midst of it all how could he solve his own decree of Eternal judgment and death and hell he had to find somebody who hadn't sinned who could die for everybody who had sinned now what you're about to read is utterly shocking I want you to think

for for a minute how does a parent feel toward a child that's a prodal in the worst way do you stop loving them no do you have great grief yes is your heart broken and crushed yes that's how the father felt about all of us but he had his own decree that you

must die with the death penalty to to solve now look what took place in isaah 53 when God decided to intervene for us and this is a prophecy about what happened with Jesus and we hid as it were our faces from him that's Jesus he was despised and we didn't esteem him surely he has borne our griefs and

carried our sorrows yet we esteemed him stricken watch these words Smitten by God God smote Jesus and Afflicted him him but he Jesus was wounded why he was wounded for our transgressions what why was he wounded for my for my sins and he was bruised for my iniquities now here's the part I want

you to see the chastisement for our peace was upon him and by his stripes we are healed all we like sheep have gone astray we have turned everyone his own way now I want you to underline this sentence and the lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all so what did God the Father

do look up here this is just shocking God the Father this the father We're The Offspring and the children God the Father turned to God the Eternal begotten Son of God Jesus and said to him I want you to do something for me I want to trade you for them I want them

back even what they've done to my heart and the only way I can get them back is if I have a human being who never sinned and was willing to die for people who are my enemies will you go and Jesus agreed to go and when Jesus was on the cross the father because he is God had the right

to say I'm taking all the sins of everybody that has ever lived from Adam to the last person that will ever live and every sin that they ever have and do and will commit and I'm putting him on Jesus as their substitution so in a sense God said to the son come down this person's supposed

to die pull the person out of the way you who are not supposed to die I'm going to put their sins on you and I'm going to make you die so that payment is done and that person doesn't have to die but you have to die and because I'm God I can do that for everybody at once

therefore all the sins I did in the past were on somebody else named Jesus 2,000 years ago whoa and all the sins I may do tomorrow which are my future have already been put on Jesus because my sins yesterday were 2,000 years before it's all in the future it's all in the future it's only in our thinking

2,000 years ago he died for the sins of my past my present and the last sin I do before I die it's not that one is past present and future to him he's all dead 2,000 years ago that's why he said ah it is finished there's nothing else you can do why he paid it all every sin I have

and will commit was paid for 2,000 years ago therefore what can I do for my salvation answer nothing why not it's the death penalty I either die for it or find somebody else who did the work of dying for me what what can I do I can do nothing yeah you can't save yourself

never could that's why it's a gift that's a gift not of works not you mean all my sins yes but what if I sin big that big one is already on him wow now here's the thing I want you to see oh I'm so inadequate of teaching this it just feel inadequate how does God

feel because emotions tied to forgiveness how did God feel about asking his son to die for people like you and me and all the things we've done against God what happens next in that passage I have thought over so many times in my lifetime look at the last sentence on that page yet it pleased the Lord what

it pleased the Lord to bruise to crush Jesus what God the Father what was your attitude about putting the sins on Jesus and killing him answer it pleased me to do that wait how could it please any father to kill a son or a daughter answer by what he got from killing him he got

us whoa how did God the Father it pleased the Lord to crush the sun what's that saying about how much God feels about you that it pleased the father to crush to kill son the Jews didn't kill Jesus the father killed Jesus that's what this text says it pleased the father to crush the

son that word Crush means to kill he has put him not the Jews put him to grief he has put him to grief when you God the Father make his soul Jesus an offering for sin the Jews didn't kill Jesus the father killed Jesus the Jews just happen to be

there did you get this yeah does not the Bible say this the Bible says this for he made him for God the Father made him Jesus the son who knew no sin to be sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God in him now here's the question how could God the Father ever switch the son which

he loved in ways we can't imagine for us wa do you find this this is just staggering for when we were still without Strength In Due Time Christ died for the ungodly that's us for scarcely would a righteous man will one die yet Perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die but God demonstrated

his own love toward us in that while we were still Sinners rebelling hating him Christ died for us now it's not that we repented Christ died why we were still enemies now here's the part that you may never get over I never have and the question is how much does God love me how much does God love

you look at John this is Jesus Christ saying this that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them as you have loved me me do you know what that verse says in the Greek language it says this that the world may know that the same amount of love that you have for me as your

Eternal son is identical to the amount of love you have for your other sons and daughters which means shocking as it may sound the amount of love you think God the father has for the son is exactly the same amount of love the father has for you that's why he traded one for the

[Music] other God doesn't love Jesus more than you he loves you the same as he loves him are you ever precious in her sight or what God was pleased to send his son to die because he loved us like Jesus number four is the most important doctrinal one we have have God sent Jesus to satisfy his

wrath his wrath the father's wrath by full payment for everybody's sin let me explain that to you all right let's look at this in this the love of God was manifest was shown toward us how is the love of God shown toward us that God has sent his only begotten son into the world that's how

he proved he loved us wh why did he send his only begotten son how does that show us he loves us that we might live through him in in this is love not that we loved God but that he loved us and sent his son to be something a very big theological term to be the propitiation for our sins

what is this God loved us so much he sent his son in this is love that he did this why because the son took care of this for our sins what is this propitiation is a big concept that is very very simple propitiation means that all of your wrath is taken care of that it's

enough let's say this session is over we're hopping into our cars outside and you have just bought yesterday a brand new car the car of your dreams you save for 5 years it's perfect and you even park it a little bit away from everybody else's car because it still smells new and I uh am tired at the end of the day and

I look around the back and I didn't see how close your car was and as I backed out I heard this I'm thinking oh no I really didn't hit that car and there's a big strape all the way across your car let's say I wasn't a teacher just somebody that was here today and you come out and you say look

what you did to my car oh my oh my goodness my car is it why couldn't you watch where you were going and then you come to the lady whose car it is and you say you know ma'am this is 100% my fault and how how much do you think it's going to cost to fix that that scratch

well that's going to cost $6,000 to fix that okay I I don't disagree with you here is 6,000 R Rand right now I don't want you have to hassle with insurance it's all my fault and um how much time are you going to not have your car 4 days that's an irritation isn't it

ma'am how about another 3,000 Rand just so that you don't have to waste your and for all of me ruining your day today how about 5,000 more Rand for you you should see her smile I mean she likes this story and she's hoping please leave that money right there other side yeah but what

happened she's pleased I did a propitiation on her no [Laughter] no it's for by Grace you receive this money and don't give it back to me and don't give it back to my wife it's just for you yeah so the wrath of God really really filled with wrath going to send you to hell for

this Jesus is here and God the Father all the things that made him filled with wrath is poured on Jesus for everyone and when Jesus died the father says it's enough it's enough you paid for it all that's propitiation to be the propitiation for our sins how do you know when propitiation is over when the

person says it's enough I'm happy now so is God still Wrath about you he can't be can he discipline you yes but can he have wrath no why not every single sin that I have and I do and I will do his son already paid for before I was born whoa come on let your heart open

with this God has no more Wrath and he is satisfied and then he also not only forgives all of our sins but he gives us Christ's righteousness at the same time and he adopts us come on you're forgiven now I'm adopting you not just as my Offspring but as my sons and daughters into my

family that's why he can do that you don't deserve that you're forgiven so he can do that now I was teaching this idea to a man once and he said I don't know if it's enough you don't know what's enough I don't know if Christ's death was enough how do I know it was enough

for me he said I've done a lot of wrong things I said would you like the answer yes is there one yes the Bible says that he was raised because of our justification now what does that mean well the Bible is very clear that no evil or sin can come into heaven so when God put

the sins of everybody on him the Big Miracle wasn't that he died for my sins the Big Miracle is would God let him back in heaven because all the sins were on him and if that wasn't sufficient then he'd still have the sin on him and the father wouldn't let him in the great victory of Christianity isn't

that Christ died for my sins it's that father accepted his death for my sins and took him back the Hope isn't the death of Christ it's the resurrection of Christ and it proves the propitiation has been taken care of cuz he can't have anybody Sin from any person in any time in any age

left over or else the father wouldn't let him in that's why it pleased the father to kill the son to get us back isn't he magnificent amen oh I've not recovered from what I'm teaching you part four how did God provide for man to receive his forgiveness it's he paid for our sins but how do I get get

that point number one God paid the penalty through Jesus and offered that sacrifice as a gift it's a gift because I can't do anything for it for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our lord number two I want you to Star number

two God cannot permit man to pay the death penalty by Good Works that's why when everybody says I'm trying as best as I can and God is fair and let me into heaven are so tragically wrong it's a death penalty it's not good works and he will not the nicest person in the

world has rebelled against God many many times and he deserves or she deserves a death penalty three God only requires faith in Christ substitutionary death for salvation what do you mean for God so loved the world that he gave you know this verse his only begotten son that whoever what's the word believes in Him should not perish

but have everlasting life for God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world but that the world through him might be saved look at the verse beneath it John 1:12 but as many as received Jesus as their savior to them he gave the right to become the children of God to those who believe in

his name what is this saying the Bible teaches very clear that God put all the sins of every person on Jesus therefore if somebody ever said to you Jesus didn't die for everybody they are pulling out verses of scripture and say I'm cutting them out cuz I don't like that it says that in black and white he died

for all the sins of all the people okay he paid for all the sins of all the people then why doesn't everybody go to heaven because there isn't anybody that Jesus didn't die for what a great question because God wants us to have to understand what he did when he sent Jesus and accept the fact this is called

repentance you can't be saved without repentance what does that mean that means up to this point in my life I thought if I could do enough good works God would say you're not too bad son come on in therefore I did my own salvation but because the death penalty doesn't let me do my own salvation I

have to change my mind that's what repentance means means to change how you think it means I Repent I used to think I could save myself by the good things I did now I change my mind I repent and I realize I cannot save myself whoa that's repentance but unless somebody who is

sinless dies in my place and pays for my sin I will go to hell period I have no hope that's repentance and all the father says is I love you so much I love you the same same as I love Jesus and I want you back with me forever but you must have zero Pride facing me I'm doing

this to you because I love you and because my son loves you and what I want from you is one thing will you accept his death as your replacement that's what I want you have to humble yourself and say I can't save myself I cannot do it and I therefore have no no faith in myself anymore I

can't I can't it's impossible I'm lost but I put my faith in the only solution that there is I believe not just in Jesus as a person I believe what he did for me is sufficient it's propitiation the complete payment for all my sins I believe he died for all my sins and all my sins have been paid for

the no more risk of a sin I commit in the future cuz all of my sins were 2,000 years after he died therefore I have to humble myself and say I want the gift of Christ's death for me I have to believe in his death as my only way for Salvation And when I say to God I am lost I deserve

hell I do and I have no hope and I I have a hard time believing me that you love me even one one millionth as much as you love Jesus but you told me that you do and that's why you sent your son to take my place I hereby accept your gift of

Christ's substitutionary death for me and the shedding of his blood for my sins as the only way I can ever have eternal life when a person understands that and says that to God in their own way God says it's done I'm giving you the gift the gift's waiting there but you have to

take it you have to take it it's a gift but you have to take it as many as received him that's the gift what's the gift his death is your gift what do you have to do take it I accept your death for me and that's all I need now many of you in this room have

understood that and many in the room haven't you've understood parts of things but not really how he felt about us and what happened and what he did and how much he loves you and therefore if you've never ever taken the gift maybe been going to church for a long time who knows maybe you've never

gone to church this is the time you take the gift how do I do this with a man I typically say to him do you understand this yes uh do you have a way out except by by Jesus no I don't are you going to hell yes I am do you want to hell no

that's what a man would say and I would say to him do you want to hearby put your full trust in death and resurrection of Jesus and trust him as your only way yes will you receive him as your savior then yes will you shake on it right then that's how it happens it's

not the shaking he's agreeing yes I'm receiving Christ so is there somebody here that has never really figured this all out and saying you know I want to shake on this too this morning maybe someone one of the sights around just say you know this salvation thing finally makes sense to me he did die for me it is enough he

paid for it all and I've never really received him and said I want the gift myself I've always thought I had to try hard and I can't do it by trying hard so that's you I want to shake your hand right here who needs their hand shaking today you mean right now yes who needs

their hand shaken anybody I know there is anybody somebody's back here come on down just shake my hand that's good let's give him a hand come on down what's your first name will you hereby stop trying to trust yourself and accept Jesus as your personal savior yes do you receive him yes then you are born again and I'll see

you in heaven Bud let's give him a hand somebody else some other lady may be yes ma'am let me come on over here and I can reach across the table if you don't mind what's your first name no going be nice to meet you do you hereby repent of trusting your own good works I

do and do you put your full faith in Jesus I do do you accept him as your savior then you're going to see him in heaven too let's give her a hand is is that easy believism that's what I keep hearing about is it easy believism wait a minute who did the work

did I do the work or did he do the the work he did all of the work what's left for me to do nothing nothing nothing so when you don't do anything how hard is it he is not hard people are trying to add works and Faith salvation is by faith in what somebody else did for me

and it's easy to believe if you humble yourself and realize how much God loved you and died so he could be with you again it's meant to be easy I've LED masses of people to the Lord over the years anybody else those of you who are Deans when we take a break make sure you talk about

this with your people is there anybody else who are just sitting there saying don't be afraid all right what's your first name nice to meet you do you hereby repent I do do you accept Christ's death and Resurrection accept him and you receive him as your savior I receive I can feel that from here we'll see you in heaven

as well bless you very good I think there's one other person I may be wrong but I don't think I am somebody who is shy and you feel glued to your chair I hereby break the glue if you if you want just to do this I'd love for it to shake your hand so is there somebody else

who's just just saying oh come on don't wait don't catch me later on in the hall catch me now somebody right here anybody else feel this strong anybody else right here good for you sir what's your name nice to meet you Alex do you hereby put your full and complete trust in Jesus Christ yes do you believe he died

for every single sin you've ever done and everyone you'll ever do tomorrow and you don't have to worry about that and he has no more wrath toward you and he loves you as much as Jesus just think about that wow and if you were the only person here he' to send his son to grab

you do you receive him and accept salvation and we'll see you with everybody else nice to see you very very good let's finish up this session let's go back to that page here's the question how can God forgive me for all my sins and yet not forgive me now we're going to answer

that Matthew chapter 6 for if you forgive men their trespasses your heavenly father will also forgive you but if you do not forgive men their trespasses neither will your father forgive your trespasses I made a charge here of two columns on the left hand side is type one of forgiveness God's forgiveness forgiveness for and the fill in on that

word is redemption that we can be saved we can be saved but on the right hand column is a different kind of forgiveness type two it's not God's forgiveness it's our forgiveness and the filling is forgiveness for relationship now I want to go down through this quickly and fill in a couple words and then we'll be done take

a look at this number one on the left hand side God's forgiveness for Redemption is a universal problem for everybody for all of mankind you got to accept Christ for your sins on the right hand side it's a universal problem for all believers number two the Redemption is the focus is on life after death

if you don't find God's forgiveness for salvation then after death you're going to have hell whereas here our forgiveness for relationship that focuses on life before I die so let me see if I can explain this before going any further there's two kinds of forgiveness here one is the Salvation type of forgiveness where I

bring my sins before him and Christ died for them and I put my faith in Christ death in Resurrection the father then does over 15 Miracles and one of those Miracles is he forgives all of my sins and he gives me a gift called eternal life and when I die the door is

open in heaven and I come right through because my sins have been paid for but once I am saved I have a choice of how I'm going to get along with God and if I choose to sin in a major way and not forgive look what's going going to do he's already forgiven my sins so I can

enter into heaven but he's saying you're going to pay for this son right now I'm going to discipline you I don't lock heaven for you CU all the sins to enter into heaven have been forgiven all of them including that one but if you Commit This sin you're going to have to stop cuz I'm

going to put torture on you and I'm going to stop forgiving these sins that's how the torture happens and these are things have to do with my relationship before I die this is everything to do with after I die were my sins forgiven or not if they weren't forgiven I don't get to go

in this is everything to do with from the point before I die and he will discipline me to bring me back to obedience that's what this forgiveness is about does that make sense to you okay good point number three the problem on the left is requirement of the death penalty the problem on the right is the

requirement for our forgiveness on Earth four God's compassion for us right hand side our compassion for others and our ourselves five will God forgive us will we forgive others and ourselves is this becoming clear to you yeah okay six if this is a fill in saved from torment in hell what's the right hand side save

from torment on Earth that's right you're getting the difference seven torment never stops after death if your sins aren't forgiven torment immediately stops upon forgiveness isn't that nice yeah number eight faith in Christ's substitutionary death obedience to God's forgiveness requirement I have to forgive number nine believe in Christ's death and you shall be saved forgive and you shall be

set free by Christ's work on the cross for our forgiveness by my work of forgiveness of you number 11 Christ's gifts to everyone our gift to anyone number 12 the wages of sin is death but the wages of sin of unforgiveness now is called discipline ones on Earth as a child of his one has to do with your eternal

life let's read the last verse there in this is the love of God was manifested toward [Music] [Music] us that's good kind of step back and think about what you've been learning in this session about how much he felt love for you press the issue of being crushed eventually we became his enemies he had

great wrath toward us but he missed us terribly and he at the beginning gave the penalty of the death penalty and then he finds somebody who did not sin therefore didn't deserve the death penalty and he asked them for the great trade sent Christ to become a human who did not sin than he as God put the sins

of everybody on him and Christ paid the death penalty for everybody how do we know it was enough because of two words propitiation and justification propitiation means this God's Wrath was fully satisfied he didn't need anything more than Christ's death cuz the penalty was death and Christ paid for it how do we know it was enough because God led

him back in heaven he died to pay for sins the question would be did he pay enough for the sins and the answer is yes the next issue is the simplest one how do I get in on this it's a gift that's sitting on the counter how do I get the the gift you got to walk over

and take it by receiving him as your savior and saying I can't save myself thank you for dying for me and you're given the gift at that moment and you have it and that door never closes the Bible doesn't say that when you die you get eternal life it's when you believe you are given eternal

life that's when you get it later on if you continue to have unforgiveness in your sin God will discipline you as a father to a child he will deliver you to be tormented he will not forgive you for your sins in this period of time that doesn't affect this but affects your relationship to him is

that clear for the people that came to know Christ to day this is the most important day of your life do you mind if I spend a couple minutes just with you we've been watching an audience in South Africa but now it's time to talk heart tohe heart because even more important than

forgiving others and yourself is one other person that you somewhere along your life have wounded by some of your attitudes or actions maybe we call those sins sometime during your lifetime maybe even yesterday you you know who I'm talking about don't you his name is the Lord Jesus Christ and he desperately wants to

forgive you not just for some some of the things that you have done against him but for every single one of them he wants to wipe your slate clean you see he died for every single one of your sins and now offers you personally the greatest gift of all time the the gift

of Salvation the gift of the Forgiveness of your sins the gift of eternal life in heaven with him and all the other people who sometime in their life they knelt down in their heart before him asking for forgiveness confessing their sins and placing their faith in in only one thing only one person not themselves not

their good works but in somebody else in Jesus Christ who died for their sin and then resurrected into heaven as proof that it was full payment for their sins well have you done that yet if not my goodness what are you waiting for what are you really waiting for why don't you come running into the Arms of

Jesus Christ literally and and humble yourself and confess your sins and accept him as your savior in Lord so in a minute I want you to Bow your head with me you know I don't care if you're watching this in a mega church of 5,000 people or in a small group somewhere or with your

family or maybe just by yourself on your phone or your laptop in a minute I I want you to Bow your head with me and pray along with me you know the words there's nothing special about the words but what I'm trying to communicate and if you already know Jesus Christ then how about you join with me and just

whisper the words along with me kind of as a reaffirmation but if this is your moment of Salvation then can I say it to you straightforward Heaven has been waiting for you so let's bow our heads and if you know Christ just whisper these words along with me and if you don't why don't

you pray them for the first time dear God I I come before you and I confess my sins to you I have sinned many times in different areas I believe that I am unable to save myself I believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for my [Music] sins it is only through his shed blood

that I can find your [Music] forgiveness there therefore I put my full faith my full trust in Jesus Christ and I ask him to be My Savior and Lord I accept his forgiveness of Salvation thank you for dying for me in jesus' name amen well congratulations and welcome to the family of God I look forward to meeting you I

don't care where you are around the world but I want to meet you someday Somewhere In The Eternity of Heaven on those streets of gold the Bible talks about I want you to come on up and say you know I was one of those people who not only forgave other people myself but I I accepted God's

forgiveness for me through Christ but I want you to do something for me I want you to tell someone else tell some other believer in Jesus and tell if you're going to church tell your pastor and if not go to church find a good Bible teaching preaching Church where they love Christ and preach the

scriptures and tell the pastor I want uh uh Dr Bruce told me to tell you that I invited Jesus into my life and let them encourage you they're going to celebrate they know the significance of what happened [Music]