Natasha Hausdorff vs. Norway's deputy Foreign Minister, Andreas Kravik – Debate on Israel Trade Ban

Joining us today are two guests with deep expertise in international law with very different perspectives on this issue. Andreas Mutzfeld Kraik is deputy foreign minister of Norway. He's a lawyer by training and has worked extensively on international law within the Norwegian government. Natasha Hdorf is an expert in international law and law of armed conflict, a British

barrister and legal director of UK lawyers for Israel charitable trust and she's a frequent commentator on the legal aspects of the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Welcome to the both of you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Um before we begin the debate, here's a quick overview of what this is about. In June 2026, the Norwegian government

published a draft law for public consultation. The proposal will make it illegal for Norwegian citizens and companies to trade with Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Specifically, it would ban the import of goods produced in those settlements, the export of goods to them, the purchase of real estate there, and related services such as

construction or properties transactions. The government argues that the settlements are legal under international law and that Norway should not allow its citizens or businesses to support or profit from them with infractions potentially resulting in fines or up to 3 years of imprisonment. The proposal also makes attempting and complicity punishable because many of

the prohibited acts would take place outside Norway in the settlements. The ordinary requirement of dual criminality is waved. The consultation period runs until midepptember after which the government will decide whether to send a final bill to parliament. That is the proposal we will be discussing today. So let's start with a just a few questions