Sam Altman on Elon Musk, ‘Artificial,’ and the Future of Humanity (Part One)

from Vanity Fair. This is Fair Game. I'm Mark Aduchi. Every day, a new scientific breakthrough or existential threat seems to make the world more aware, more anxious, and more distrusting of an AI future that we're told is rapidly approaching. And nobody is more recognized as the face of artificial intelligence, as a technology, an

industry, and as a civilizational shift than OpenAI co-founder and CEO Sam Alman. For that reason, Sam Alman is on Vanity Fair's cover this month and sits at number one on our new establishment list. I sat down with Alman for two interviews in San Francisco. The first on September 11th and then again today,

October 2nd. In those weeks, the story about AI seemed to turn upside down about half a dozen times. And over the course of our conversations, we discussed everything from Sam Elman's life, his children, his rivalries, pronatalism, prepping for the apocalypse, Luca Guadino's artificial, and whether he thinks he's been mischaracterized as a villain in

society. We talked about his company, his new products, the delayed IPO, his compensation, the recent exodus of OpenAI executives, and we talked about the technology itself, slowing down, government regulation, industry self-p policing, President Xiinping's state visit and protecting human life, including in the case of suicide. I should note before we begin that condas,

Vanity Fair's parent company, has a content licensing agreement with OpenAI. Both interviews with Altman are live now. This is part one. Sam, [music] it's good to see you. You too. We are speaking at an extraordinary time, I think, for [music] AI in terms of the capabilities and the risks and the public awareness of both.