Chiara Moretti

Okay. Then I'll make the cuts, okay, don't worry. Okay . Okay . Well, I'll start right away with the question. All right . Hi Chiara. HI. HI. In your book you write that every company starts over. [laughter] Hi Chiara. HI. In your book you write that every society recognizes some ways of suffering

while delegitimizing others. The three women we interviewed experience daily pain, but the X-rays, MRIs, and other tests they underwent do not find it. Anthropologist, what happens to a pain that medicine can't see? And why does it lose its status as a disease in the eyes of the institution? And what does it do to those who inhabit that pain to

find themselves in this area where the pain exists in the body but does not appear on the medical report? Hmm. But then, first of all I would start from a consideration, from an observation, that is, that any pain, as a subjective experience, let's say, is never directly visible, no, in medicine and this a bit in all its forms,

that is, pain has this main characteristic, that is, that it escapes the clinical gaze, and therefore empirical observation, precisely because it cannot be, let's say, observed, detected visually in the same way in which, no, an organic lesion is observed or traced . Well, some forms of pain may be more visible than others when, for example, it's not

possible to identify the causes, such as damage to the tissues, inflammatory processes, any lesion, no, which can be detected visually. However, even in these circumstances, medicine can observe the origin of the pain, it can observe the cause of the pain, but it won't be able to observe or visually detect how it is