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Okay, so this is the last one. I'd like to ask the consultant to handle this. That was quick.

Well, you know, the other day, uh, when was it, maybe 123 weeks ago , and we also had a group consultation last week, so we talked quite a bit, but, um, how are you? Have there been any changes since then?

Oh, that's right, well, this is a very recent story, but I think we talked about a big change in memory at yesterday's group consultation, and I really felt

yesterday that this might be exactly that . Yeah. Um, well, I have this neck strap employee badge that I always use at work in my commuter bag, and I found it and sometimes I pull it out and play with it, yeah.

So yesterday, I just pulled it out and put it around my neck like this. Yeah. That's cute, but I've never taught him, and I wonder how he even knows that you put it around your neck. Yeah, yeah. When I mentioned it to my husband, he said, "Well, you often see parents putting them on at playgrounds and stuff," and I thought, "That's true," and my husband noticed it before I did, but I thought that was amazing too, because I hadn't thought of that.

[laughs] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I didn't think he'd noticed something like that. But he said, "Well, the staff wear them too, so it can't be that," and I thought, "Yeah." I see. Ah, I definitely agree, and I'm watching it intently . Yes, yes, that's right. I was a little surprised, but the way he was walking around like that was kind of funny.

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[Laughs]

Maybe all those straps are the same shape, right? And, you know, even nursery school teachers , ah, they wear them around their necks or something, or put them inside their aprons, I don't think there are any teachers who wear them as they are, probably because it's

dangerous, so they wear them around their necks or something, and they talk a lot with them sticking out, I guess so teachers too, I think so, yes yes yes, and

moms at the park too, yes . They're really observant. Oh, I see. Wow, that's interesting. yes. So, even if it's something that Mom and Dad don't actually do, yeah . They might start doing it a lot. My world has definitely expanded since I started that nursery school. yes. We're going to make that part really

big. He's already 1 year and 8 months old. yes. It's already the moon. yes. I agree. yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's going to change a lot. Oh, I see. I see. Yes, teacher. So I think that maybe his perspective on various things has changed from before.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, that's right. I felt that way . Moreover, it's something I can imitate, so I think I'll try to imitate it too. Ah, I did it! I get this overwhelming feeling of accomplishment. Ah, it's done. Done.

And if my dad and mom notice it, it's like, "Oh, they noticed!" Oh, yes, that's right. That's when I feel a sense of relief, and it leads me to think about what I should do next and take on new challenges.

Ah, yes, yes, yes. When you notice something, it might be nice to ask things like, "Where did you see that?" or "Was someone else doing that?" Ah, yes. got it. If you see something like that, or if you see something you've never done before, you'll probably think, "Wow, that's amazing! What's so incredible about it?" I didn't know you could do that. I think there are probably times when I'll say it, but of course after saying it, I'll ask how I was able to do it, where I saw it, who was doing it, etc.

But when I ask again, I think, "What was it again?" and then I remember . yes. Let's organize things. And then, once again, there are more and more instances where I feel like there's been a huge change in my memories . Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no, it's really good. fun. fun. Oh, really?

This applies to subsequent interactions as well. Yes, yes, that's right. Yeah. And having that, you know, leads to actions that will definitely lead to the next step. Yeah. Yeah. That's because I somehow managed to arrange things to make them look better. Understood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It will become like that. Yeah. That's interesting

. interesting. I think, [laughs] this will probably change a lot once he turns two. a. That's right. Yeah. I think their vocabulary will increase, and they'll get better and better at using their bodies, and I think they'll probably do all sorts of exercises at daycare, so their movements will

improve. I understand because it's coming . Um, well , there's something that's been really bothering me lately. I've actually consulted you about this before, but the problem is that I've been looking at my smartphone a lot lately. I would

n't say it's a daily thing, and I do set a time limit for it, but I feel like I've been looking at it a lot more, especially when I'm out and about, like when I'm on the

train or something. For example, when I was traveling recently and on the bullet train for a long time, and I didn't want to talk much, I ended up using it a bit

. That's the one thing that's a bit worrying to me right now. I see. I see. yes. It's kind of difficult to switch to something like tea. Yeah. I guess it's because I've come to expect to be able to use my smartphone when I'm traveling for a long time. That's right

. That's right. Yeah. But you absolutely can't change that all at once, so yeah . So, if there's another time when I have to travel that distance, yes. Um , it would be better to live there later. So, first of all, let's think about what we'll be doing on the bullet train today and what we should bring with us. A sticker book and, uh, stickers,

round stickers, uh, yes. Or, you might as well bring a new one with you at that time. So, when we're going out, before we leave the house, I'll show them this and say, "Hey, I bought something new," and "Let's play this on the train today," and then we'll play it on the

train, and if they want to watch something else, I'll show them that, gradually reducing the amount of time they spend on their phone.

Yeah. I mean, I usually try to cut back too suddenly, so it's pretty much impossible for me. For example, even us adults... yes. Is there anything else? Let's say there's someone who always listens to music while traveling. But if you were told to stop doing that immediately starting tomorrow, well, that's impossible, right?

Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. That's why, once you get used to something like that, it's impossible for kids or adults to go back to normal right away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we did it little by little, and before we left the house, I'd say, "Let's do this today," and then I'd say, "Okay." If they

have their own backpack or something, I'd say, "Okay, let's put it in your own backpack," and have them carry it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, when we got on the bullet train, I suggested we do this together, and we started doing it, and I don't know how long we'll be able to concentrate, but

yeah. Yeah. So I try it out, and when I feel like I've reached my limit, I take out my smartphone.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's probably best to reduce it little by little. Little by little. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As I suspected, it's absolutely impossible to do it all at once. Yeah. Yeah. that's right . Well, this guy, I mean, we were the ones who chose and did all the preparations on our own

. Of course , my daughter wasn't necessarily happy with it, so I just chose it thinking it would be okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's certainly a good idea to show it. I know this exists. That's very important. Yes, yes, yes, I wonder what it is. Well, actually, I don't really want to do that myself. Yeah, that's right.

When they don't have a specific request like "I want to do this" or "I want to do that," you might think, "I'll bring this toy for them," like when they're babies. But they'll probably have a strong preference for this or that, so you have to let them choose. If you bring something, and they say, "I'm not in the mood for that," then they'll just forget about

that toy. So, it's like deciding together which picture book to read or which socks to wear. For example, if you're taking the bullet train today

, you could decide together which sticker book to bring or which toy to bring, and what to play with on the train. Then they might say, "Okay, I'm in the mood for this today, so let's bring this."

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, if there's something I've been really into lately but it just didn't make the list, well...

Yeah. I guess I should keep it just in case. Yeah. Even if you haven't chosen it, you can say you don't need it, and if you say you don't need it, just say "Okay, I understand," and I'll put in a little bit of Mom's support just in case. It's like, "If you feel like doing something, just tell me," and then you can put it into Mom's mind.

Yeah, yeah, like with stuffed animals that you often carry around, yeah. And even if you don't know, you don't need it at that moment . I ca n't carry it around all the time, and it's kind of hard to find, so yeah . Oh, uh, I'll bring it along just in case. Um, yeah. Yeah. It's like, "I'll be out for a long time," or something like that

. When I did it , I felt a sense of security, like, "Oh yeah, Mom told me to take this." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then they connect, you know. yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, even if you're not chosen, it's a good idea to keep the things you're into anyway. Yeah. Understood. thank you. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. surely. Just hearing that makes me feel a little more at ease and confident. [Laughs] So, I think it's a bit hectic when you're rushing out of the house, but it's probably better to think about giving them some time to choose when you're moving . Yeah. surely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Take your time.

[Laughs] That's right. hand. Yeah. It's the kind of thing that makes you feel like you don't have time to choose anymore. [Laughs] Yes, yes, yes, yes. Um, even at home, I'm having a lot of trouble with my smartphone.

Even at home, if it gets found like this, people will say "oh no," so I put it somewhere where it's not easily visible. [Laughs] I try my best not to look at them . Oh, right. Now that I think about it, that's all I can think about. [Laughs] That's exactly how it feels

. I see. Well, the quickest way to deal with it is to simply not let it into your field of vision. That's right . Yeah. But, well, there are times when you just can't help but mess with it, so in those cases, it might be a good idea to tell them before you touch it.

Mom's going to reply to a friend's message now, so I'll touch it for a bit. It might be a good idea for Mom to show her child that she only touches it for that moment, and then when she's finished, she puts it away, and that she wo n't touch it again once her task is done.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think they'll definitely want to touch it, and what's good about it is that when they get older, like two or three years old, they'll start to express themselves more in words, saying "I want it, I want it," so at that point, you can just say, " This is why Mommy's putting away the smartphone right now," and then put it away when you're done

. Hmm. If you get into the habit of just watching this and that, yeah . It makes me think that I can do that too, so yeah . If you get into the habit of talking to or explaining that habit, when your child is two or three years old, you'll know . It might be

easy. From that point on, it suddenly became difficult to explain because of my habits and such. Yeah. So, from now on, I'll make sure to remember why I'm touching something and put it away when I'm finished. yes. It's over. Yeah. Would it be better to show that you're touching it while it's stuck on?

Oh? That's true for me too. I think I probably have some habits of my own [laugh]. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Your own habits, or rather, the habits you've developed, are actually the most important thing. I still find myself thinking things like, "I have to say this to my kids," or "I have to control them," without even realizing it

. Before that, we need to change ourselves, we need to get into the habit of interacting with others in a certain way . If we're suddenly told to do this and that, we can't do it, so there's absolutely no way our children can. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I hope we can spread that idea throughout society.

yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It stabbed me hard. You really have to be mindful of it. But then again, I've spent time with the second generation members of Montble Next [laughs] so I have a

foundation for observation. At the beginning, I thought I had to observe them, and I did. I think I was probably observing things because I had to write this item in that observation diary, but now I've naturally developed the habit of observing, so I'm able to

translate things into "I wonder if that's what it means" on my own . So you can definitely get into the habit. Yes, yes, yes, is that okay? Thank you. I didn't know what kind of awareness I should have, so I was relieved when you taught me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely, everything will be fine. oh yeah. Oh really? You can't really do it unless you make it sound pretty poppy, right?

yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Even I still have times when I can't do it . I'm not perfect all the time either.

yes. Well, that's true. Even if you've made it a habit, there are some things you just can't do. So, what do you do when you can't do something? Sorry, Mom. If you tell them honestly that you didn't have the time, they'll say, "Yeah." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you explain it properly, they'll definitely understand.

yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is that important? [Laughs] That's true, this morning I was reminded of all the things I haven't done, and I realized that I haven't gotten anything done. I was feeling

a bit annoyed, so I got ready in the morning with a serious expression on my face, but then I looked at my daughter's face and thought, "Oh, this isn't going to work," and realized that I hadn't gotten a lot of things done.

Yes, yes, yes. Say that. [Laughs] Oh, I should n't have said that, I was being serious just now. Pop, pop. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So, when you're feeling down, there are times when you just can't do things that way at all.

Yeah. By the way, it would be nice to say, "Mom was really exhausted just now." Yes, yes, yes, yes. Lately, when I meet up with friends, I often talk about how I've been feeling this way, how I'm exhausted, and how I don't have the energy to look around.

Yeah. It's exactly the same thing; you should tell your children the same thing. Yeah. Well, that's because having a style that's really tough is extremely important, so yes . Then, your child will start telling you when they're having a hard time, so that's one way of creating a supportive environment . Yeah. Yeah. oh yeah

. Instead of saying "tell us when you're feeling down," we want to show them, as a

book, how to say "I'm feeling down," and they'll think, "Okay, that's how I should say it," so that's something I definitely want to continue doing for a long time. Yes, that's right,

thank you for teaching me, and by saying it in a pop style, I've been feeling a bit negative, but now it's a little bit like this [laughs]

. Yeah. It's about being able to see things in a positive light. Yeah. That's what makes it interesting. When you're feeling down, constantly complaining will only make you feel worse. yes. Then, the kids will definitely see it. yes. I wonder what happened . I told my mom that I haven't been able to get anything done because of this and that. Ah, that's why Mom's so tired. They'll say "I see" and start to understand.

[Laughs]

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely, it's important. It's tough, and it is tough. Ah, but I feel like I can say it today. Yeah. Well, if this were the old me, I would have been really exhausted. I think all I could say was "no, I don't want to." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Since learning about that way of looking at things, that way of thinking, I've recently felt that I've changed in a certain way myself.

Wow, this is really good. It's really good. No, no, but her expression really did change, didn't it? Really? Thank you. I'm so glad to hear you say that. I really think so now. Every time, work has started, and I've started posting again, but wow

, that was great. That's absolutely true . I think that if I hadn't had that kind of mindset, that communication would have definitely ended very quickly. [Laughs] Yeah. I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted. Things like how to make time. Oh, that's right. that's right. You really have to be conscious of how you make time for that, yeah

. It's not like I'm just lazing around, but I feel like I end up just being busy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a matter of your mindset, and how important it is to keep doing things little by little, even if you can't make a lot. Yeah, that's right, so true. And even if you get

sleep-deprived and get irritated, you can just tell your kids, "Actually, I'm a little sleep-deprived, I'm really sleepy." Yeah, yeah

. oh yeah . That's it . So, I was thinking about a lot of things like this. I'm doing these things now because I have children, and I can talk to Miyu-san like this, and sometimes I really think to myself, "I'm so glad I have children now." It's

absolutely wonderful. Yes, yes, yes, that's right. That's absolutely true . You know , when you get pregnant, you feel happy and all sorts of things, but then the hardships start to come out

. I'm so tired. I can't help but wonder why it's always me. yes. Even so , you know, not getting pregnant is a miracle in itself, yeah. That's why we were able to meet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. hey. That's true for Montble, and it's true for me too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That applies to work too.

yes. That seems likely . That's lovely. I'm so happy. thank you. That's great. Is there anything else? Oh, no, but I've really talked about a lot of things now, and I think I've said this before, but I was really

worried about what would happen to the things I hate, or rather, how I should deal with it. It's such an unknown world that I don't really understand it

. But I think that what I've really learned so far is, well, to reach out, well, you know, to reach out is the most important thing

. Yeah. They always tell me that when I do things like that, I should really enjoy it, so I've started to feel like I might be

able to do that, so I'm really sure. Is there anything you really

hate right now?

No, rather than saying no, it's more like, as I said earlier about my smartphone, if I want to do something, like, before going to bed, I want to go outside, well, to the balcony. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes she'll say she wants to go outside onto the balcony, and well, she'll go out for about

five minutes at that time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right now, I feel like I'm expressing my own will very strongly—I want to do this, I want to do that, I want to go there, and so on

. That's probably when you start to learn words like "I don't like it

." Yeah. They start expressing their dislike very strongly, but for example, if they want to go out onto the balcony before going to bed, well, what would that be? Oh, so you wanted to participate, huh? And thank you for saying that. And after we go out, you can say things like, "

How was it going outside?" or "I saw so many things!" or, if you saw cars, you can say, "I saw cars!" or, "Mommy had so much fun going out with you, Marumaru!" So, let's go to sleep, something like that.

Yeah. Yeah. I was so grateful that you clearly expressed your desire to go outside, and that I was happy to go out with you and have fun.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So , for example, you might say, "I can't do that today," but then you end up doing everything you want to do

. I can't grant your wish, you know. Yeah. In those situations, you don't have to listen to everything they say. At that time, I might say something like, "It's really late today," or "I

want to go out here today, so I can't go today." Sometimes that happens. Yeah. But I understand that you want to go, so let's go there tomorrow or sometime later when the situation is like this. "Mom's looking forward to it too," I said. So

you felt the same way, too. Mommy wants to go too, and she wants to go with you. But by saying that Mom is also looking forward to tomorrow, I feel like I can't do what I want to do. They don't seem to dislike it. I hate feelings that are solely based on dislike. As I

said on the board, because they can't express their feelings, all they can say is "no, no," so now , when they start to think about what they want to do, what they want to do, I'll say

things like "thank you for coming" or "you want to do it, huh?" Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so that's where you want to appear. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so you want to go there? Not just that, but more specific, like, "So you want to go out onto the balcony?" Yeah. Hmm, I wonder what it is. Well, if they want to walk instead of being carried, don't just say "Okay, okay" and put them down, but say "Oh, you want to walk, huh?" or "Let's walk together then."

For example, if they want to climb stairs, don't just say "Oh, then let's go together," but say "Oh, Marumaru-chan wants to climb the stairs now." So, let's climb together, or this is what you want to do, right? I kind of understand. If I were to put that into words,

well. When you're about to dip your toes into something you don't like, like wanting to do something, you'll be able to use expressions other than "gear," so yeah. And when something unpleasant happens and you burst out crying, I'll say, "Oh, so this is what made you feel upset," and nod along . Thank you for telling Mom, and so on

. So , that mommy is on your side, and she hugs you and pats you gently, expressing it with her body . Yeah. I guess it's important to put into words what you wanted to do, whether it's feeling frustrated, sad, happy, or joyful

. If you consciously think about it, well , even if you get stuck in a rut, you can still express your emotions in your own words, so yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It will probably make things

easier not only for Tomo-san but also for her daughter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. oh yeah . See, it's not just the parents who have a hard time; the children have a hard time too, after all. Yeah. If you keep that in mind

, when they start saying "no," you'll think, "Ah, this child must be having a hard time too, unable to express their feelings." Just knowing that is probably enough. Yeah. I think my feelings will probably change too. Yeah. Would it be good to do that by paying attention to their feelings? Yeah. I agree. I think he probably

wants to say it, but it just doesn't come across properly . Yeah. I understand that, too . Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's the important part, I think. Yeah. There are some parts that I can't seem to put together properly. Oh yes, there are. I do. I don't know why . So, what did we end up doing? Well, Uenoko, Chibimi is

3 years and 6 months old, but what was it again? [laughs] Sometimes I say I've forgotten. oh yeah . If I forget, well, that's okay. I'll try to remember and tell you when I do. Yeah. Yeah. It happens. Yes, yes, yes. I guess you could say that. But do you ever say it clearly, like, "This is it"?

Yeah. I say that a lot sometimes. Oh, I wanted pink. ah. I understand that you really wanted pink, but you chose yellow, right? [Laughs]

That's right, that's right, that's right . Yeah. Of course, there are. yes. Yeah. Oh really? He told me that all of that kind of thing would definitely come to an end . So, when you say "end, end," does it really mean something is ending? I wonder what kind of ending it will be.

So you're going to solve it yourself? Oh, uh, yes. Because you'll be able to express it in words. Oh, I see. Words, I see, I see. Yes, yes, yes. For example, if I say I want to eat a rice ball, they'll complain, and if I can't really express myself in words then I get

tired of the five minutes. But once I can talk, I can say things like, "I wanted to eat a tomato first, not a rice ball ." Yeah. Hmph. Hmph. So I was told something like, "Leave the okkiri aside, we'll eat it later." Ah, yes. Something like, "Okay, I understand." ah. Yes, yes, yes. So you start to be able to control your emotions a little better, yeah

. Rather than saying I dislike rice balls, or that I dislike rice in general, here's the reason why I dislike rice balls. But they'll start explaining that they'll eat the rice ball later.

Yeah. But to get them to be able to explain it, we have to be very articulate about our feelings. I'll put into words what you're doing right now. oh yeah

. And we tend to try to explain things in simple terms that children can understand, right? But the more I do it, the more confused I get. This one too. Yes, yes, yes. That's why it's okay to say what you think now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, even if you think a word might be a little difficult, just say it as it is for now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. You don't need to do all that mental processing . For example, if it's something like, "Oh, we were able to communicate just now," then it would be difficult to do, but that's it. In situations like that, it's better to translate it into something like, "Okay, I understand what you're both saying now," of course.

[Laughs] Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, that friend of mine said yes. I said the words that came to mind. You don't necessarily have to translate it to suit a child's language. Yeah. yes. Yeah. I'm absolutely certain I'll understand. But, you know, Tosan said so too. Tomo-san can pronounce her favorite character's name in a difficult way.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm the only one who thinks it might be difficult. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. For example, if you use the word "communication," you can

explain afterward that "communication" means that you've both come to understand what the other person is thinking. Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Wow, that's amazing. Ultimately, all those kinds of encouraging words lead to things like that. I'll explain it to you. explanation.

Yeah. It's okay if it's not easy for you to understand, but it's important to explain it clearly. Yes, yes, that's right. When you explain it to them, you realize that there are words to describe your own situation, to describe what you're experiencing right now.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yes. When they realize that there is a word for it, well, how should I put it, their understanding deepens, and it becomes easier to say that word, and they try to

remember that word, so even if there are times when they are thinking "no," if Tomo says the same word, they might think, "Oh, I've heard that word before," and they might listen to it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hmph. Yeah. It's not just about the types of words you use, but also your feelings and emotions, but also about the actions you're taking right now. If you can articulate what you want to do, it becomes easier to say it when you want to. Even if you

think, "Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's right," you might not know what to say, so you can't communicate it, and you end up feeling stunned. So, if you have the

words to express it, you'll be able to say it, and the feeling of hesitation will lessen. Yes, I see, that's right, that's right . So , even live commentary is actually connected to that, and if you look at it that way, yeah, yeah, hmm, hmm, hmm . They say that in order to be able to

control their emotions, you should be able to express your emotions openly, and that's where it comes in, because if you can't express them, then things like "I don't like it" and "I'm

grateful" will decrease, and M uses that, and if there is an environment where you can express sadness and happiness, then when you get to elementary school, middle school, or adolescence, it would be good if there was an environment where you could express even if something is a little tough, and yes, an environment where you can express sadness and pain more, and an environment where your daughter can express it, yes

. It's also important whether you're in a position to speak up. Yeah. Yeah. Oh really? It connects to a very long place. Yeah. Yeah. And if you keep getting involved in that way, it will become a habit for you too . That's why it's not just now, for me. It's not just now that I feel like my emotions are tough.

Even when that little girl goes to kindergarten or elementary school, if she thinks, "Oh, today was tough," she'll ask me, "This happened today and it was really tough."

Yeah. But now that I've eaten a proper meal, I feel like I'm getting better . Yeah. I hope they continue even when they go to elementary school. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you can break the habit, you can definitely keep it up. Because I'm going along with it of my own accord .

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd absolutely love to do that . Yeah. It's amazing, and imagining what the future holds even further ahead has made me feel a little relieved. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, that's right. [Laughs] I wonder how we'll do it, but basically it's about communicating our feelings to each other, yeah . Yeah. Yeah. The

important thing is to go. You will be able to say it. The point is that we should both be able to express ourselves to each other if we want to. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I guess parents just want to hear something, they just want to hear it, yeah, yeah, yeah, they don't know how to say it, because they haven't shown them any books, yeah, yeah, yeah,

even if they tell their child that it's okay to talk about it if something painful happens, they might not know how to say it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

pretty difficult to talk about something painful, and also, parents should show them an example, yeah, it's important to show an example of everything, not just actions but also how to express emotions, yeah, yeah, hmm, hmm, hmm . Because it's a connection that will last for a really long time. Oh really? If you do that, your

relationship with your husband will probably suffer quite a bit. Ah, it's going well. Yes. When I ask if they express their feelings, like "Thank you for doing such-and-such today," or "I was so happy," it seems that they also express those feelings as a couple, and that's actually one of the things that contributes to

creating that kind of environment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. oh yeah . oh yeah. [Laughs] Understood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. thank you. Well, it's been almost six months now, maybe seven months or so . I consulted with them once a month , and there were also group consultations from time to time, so I think we probably met face-to-face and talked

two or three times a month . yes. But then, suddenly, when July is over [laughs] , it's like you're suddenly returned to the wild, or released. They were released, weren't they? It feels like the conversation suddenly started out of nowhere.

[Clears throat] Um, well, where was it again? The growth arc. Oh, no, no, no. When was that summary episode again?

Oh yeah, it was on the 1st. Yes, yes, yes. So , see you there, if you can make it as it starts at 9:30, then please join us live, and even if you can't make it, the archive will be available for streaming . Yeah. Yeah. So yes. Thank you very much. But, well, I was talking to Haru-san,

yes. When Pan ends, it feels like there's no longer a place where you can ask about it. I think I'll probably suddenly start feeling anxious. Yeah. yes. yes. You know, we were talking about how it would be nice to have something that would allow us to continue working together, even if it's just as a consultant, so

yes. What do you think? What would be good? Oh, but I was thinking about that and I did talk to you about it, but I think you're busy now so... Oh no, no, not at all, if you could really help me out,

that would be really appreciated. Maybe around 1? It would be good to have time to talk about each consultant separately. Yeah. I see. Oh, I'd like to ask a few more questions. It's reassuring to know that you can ask questions anytime. Yes, that's

possible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [clears throat] Let me think about it. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Yes, me too. Ah, I really do have fond memories of the NEX members. thank you. If we say goodbye suddenly, I'll feel lonely too. Because I want to talk too. [Laughs] Yes. I see. I see. Having monthly consultations

, for example, is definitely helpful. And you can make a reservation whenever you like, because I do that often.

yes. That's also true in that respect. Well, um, I was supposed to do it with Haru-san tonight, but I've come down with a fever. Yes, yes, yes. So , I thought maybe tomorrow, and I'll ask her again tomorrow what kind of thing she wants, and then I'll think about it

quickly. Oh, thank you. That's incredibly reassuring. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's about it. Is there anything else ? Absolutely nothing. Ah, well, I'm really glad that I was able to learn so many things from you at this particular time. No

, I'm truly, truly happy to hear those words. I'm truly happy. me too. No, thank you so much. Oh, thank you. But it was because Myukuru-san came to that Chi-pop-san's workshop that it became a starting point, wasn't it? I wanted to hear

more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yes, that's where we met. No, I'm happy. Thank you so, so much. thank you. I also find it really great to talk to the Nest members, so yeah. I'll end up telling people that we actually have something like this at our house too. oh yeah. I'm really, really

happy. thank you. Thank you very much. happy. Well, we still have a little more time, so let's see. Yeah. Something or other. Oh, how's that going? Did you

see what you were saying on Discord about a shelf for preparing for kindergarten? I haven't seen it yet. Oh, I'll share this with you. Uh, thank you very much. Well, Haru-san will be 3 soon. Oh, so he's turned 3. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But somehow, the prediction begins. Starting in July. So, we were talking about whether it would be better to prepare things together, and this is a shelf in my house

. amazing. [Laughs] That's right. So, this part, you see, this top part , hmm, it's a set, and I've put some things I've already prepared in here, but basically it's so that they can prepare it themselves, but it's not like you can wait until they turn two or three to prepare it, so I think Tomo's child is probably at the stage where they want to do this and that, so for example, it could be clothes, for example.

How do you usually prepare in the morning? In the morning, I pack it into the bag the night before and leave it by the front door.

Are the clothes I'll be wearing that morning my daycare? Oh, they're just my own clothes, since it's daycare. Well, I'd already prepared all of that. Yes, yes. I see. Just a little bit at a time is fine. For example, I'll

wear socks. Socks and shoes. So, to begin with, I'd give them two pairs of socks and ask, " Which one do you want today?" It's really difficult for them to start getting ready on their own at once. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's start with socks. Sigh . teeth. Let's start by deciding which socks to wear today

. And , um, you take the socks out from here, so there's a place to say, "The socks are here," yeah. I'd also like to show you the shop little by little . Is that okay? Yeah. Yeah. I see. thank you. Walking too much all at once might be bad, so for the first

week or so, just wear socks. Yeah. Well, even a month would be fine. First, I'll try out some socks, and then I'll move on to the next step. And by having shelves and things like that already organized, it creates an environment where they can prepare things themselves, which

encourages them to do things on their own during that time, and that's also a step towards independence. yes. Yeah. Yeah. Even in a daycare center like that, I probably have my own shelf . Yeah, that happens . It seems so . I don't have a childcare worker, so I don't really know the place, but the

teacher told me that when you go to pick them up, they just grab their socks and pull them out on their own, so I think they know their own place and their own things, and I hadn't really done that kind of thing at home, so yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe start with socks, yeah, yeah, maybe that's a good idea, and also, for

example, the childcare plan, I don't know, at first you have to be really determined, you know, I think it's probably difficult to suddenly change the environment, of course. Yeah. So, for example, yes. Well, you don't necessarily need a shelf this big, but if you have a place where you can hang things like this, for example...

Here, there's an S- hook, although it's a bit high up here . Anything is fine. yes. If there's a shelf or anything else where you can hang things, rather than using S-hooks, then let's put the knives there. When you go there, you might ask, "Come and bring the knives," but at first, it might be difficult to bring them. Okay, I'm going. So, let's show them how they're going to take the mama from here and take it from here to go to daycare

. Yes, yes, yes. Rather than telling them to get it, it's better to take it and show it to them first, and let them choose their socks while you show them. Starting from there is a good idea for childcare, and I think they'll gradually start practicing putting on their socks themselves

. Yeah. In line with that, I think now might be the perfect time to do it. ah. No, that's absolutely true. I still remember it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But first, you need to choose your socks . Well, let's just create a place where we can put a little bit of the kindergarten's energy into it

. Yeah. It might be good to show and make things visible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get started. yes. thank you very much. I'll get ready for a bit . Just a little . good. That's the last thing we'll talk about. thank you very much. I'd like to hear about the results of that experience, so I'll come back again soon

. I'll think about it as quickly as possible . got it . Thank you very much. thank you. Okay, can I take one more photo before we finish? Yes, please. Yes, I'll take the picture. Say cheese. Yeah. Here we go . thank you. thank you very much. Okay, then, well, see you later, I think you're going to work now, so it's fine if we meet again tonight, and I'd like to hear your thoughts and, well, um, your next action, for example, if it was today, you could say, "I think I'll start choosing bottoms," or, well, you could also just express your feelings. Yeah.

yes. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to hear your thoughts on that, too. thank you. yes. Okay, so, um, first, let's cut the recording short for now . Yeah.