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I think a lot of people think the bare market started around about October, you know, the October 10 flush that we saw and people speculate as to why that happened. I think Bitcoin was already weakening and on and on a downtrend before that and it kind of started around that July period. So, we're

around about 12 month mark. Bare markets tend to last about 12 months. So, I think we're approaching that. I I would give it until the end of August. So, now we've actually got something that's quite fundamentally sound backing these digital credit instruments. I see a demand in the hundreds of billions at the very least. I think we could see

over 10 years$1 or2 trillion dollars in demand flowing to Bitcoin through these digital credit instruments. All those people who are clowning on sailor saying, "Aha, your stock is down 80%." I think they're going to be made to eat their words within 18 months because don't they realize what's just happened? They've hit product market fit on these

preferred shares in a bare market. And at one point they were buying up to2$2.5 billion of Bitcoin funded through these preferred securities in a bare market. What do you think they're going to be able to buy in a bull market?

Hey everybody, welcome back to the income show. This week I have on Archie from the Bitcoin archive. Archie, welcome. >> Hey Joe, thanks man. It's good to be here. Yeah, great to have you, Archie. You have one of the largest accounts on Bitcoin X or Bitcoin Twitter. So, I think you have like a generally a good

idea of how the broad population thinks about just investing and saving for the future as a whole. And so, I kind of want to ask you like how do you think, you know, the million, you know, 1.8 8 million I believe or so people that that follow your account. How do most people