Daniel Ek: Life After Spotify, Broken Healthcare Incentives, Catching Disease Early & AI's Potential

All right, everybody, welcome back to the All-In interview show, where we, the All-In podcast, dedicate an hour to just some of the great thinkers, creators of our time, and today will be no different. Daniel Ek is with us. You know him, the co-founder of Spotify, which he started 20 years ago, and he

ran it for those two decades to an extraordinary state of affairs today. Well over 700 million active users, over 300 million premium subscribers, but on January 1st this year, he shifted and became the executive chairman with me and David Friedberg today. Daniel Ek, how are you, sir? Welcome to the program. >> Well, thank you so much for having me.

It's good to be on. >> Yeah, it's good to see you. We've known each other for 20 years. I remember the first Shac, your partner, leaned into me at a internet summit or something and said, "Hey, check this out." And he showed me Spotify. But this was at a time when nobody had a subscription service.

So we're going to talk today about your new startup, which is incredible in in the healthcare space. But take us back to the launch of Spotify and how that crazy idea got started. And then how hard it was to break through with the music industry, which are also known as the hardest partners

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