Is American Nazi Collapse INEVITABLE?

I'm very excited now to be joined by Victor Sebastian. He is the author of a new book, Wimar Germany, The Death of a Democracy. As I said in our introduction to the show, Victor wrote the book on Lenin, which I have recommended to countless people across the aisle. We are a bipartisan show here and every

single person is a fan of this author, which is a very difficult feat, I think, and it speaks to his deep credibility, research, and his storytelling abilities as a historian. And Victor, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. >> Well, thank you very much for asking me and for your very kind introduction.

>> Absolutely. So sir, one of the topics specifically with Weimar is it seems like something which people think they know about, they don't know a ton. Everybody likes to draw a historical parallel. Something that you draw upon in your book and that has been very popular in the discourse is this idea of

Weimar America or at the very least Weimar the West of what we're living in right now. Here is an excerpt I would love your specific reaction to of Rod Dreer who recently wrote a book on this subject was interviewed in the New York Times. Let's take a listen sir and we'll get your reaction based upon the book.

When we hear VHimar, we think of the film Cabaret and corruption and we think it all ended up in Nazism. But that is a superficial understanding of it. We have created in America today perhaps throughout the West the psychosocial conditions of Viimar without having suffered the traumas that Germany did, losing the first world war,

hyperinflation and then the great depression. Well, what I mean by that, and this also goes back to Hannah Arens in her famous 1951 book, The Origins of Totalitarianism, she tried to explain how it was that right-wing totalitarianism in Germany and left-wing version in Russia rose. And she said, "These are the factors. Social