Episode 6: Jason Snitker aka Parmaster

I was on the second floor and the door opened. I looked out I see vans all in the parking lot, Treasury agents wearing jackets. They turn around and look look up cuz they see my door open and I'm like Before he taught murderers how to play Dungeons and Dragons in Rikers, Jason Snitker, aka Parmaster, was one of the

most prolific hackers on the planet. Trading exploits with groups across four continents, slipping into Citibank, and landing in underground. The book co-written by Julian Assange before vanishing from the Secret Service for over two years. I definitely want to just dig into this super deep cuz you were at the nexus of some of the biggest

hacking groups all over the world. Chaos Computer Club in Germany, The Realm in Australia. ALG in in the UK. ALG in there. And then all of a sudden I knock at the door I open the door thinking it's my Chinese food delivery. And it's the special agent in charge of the New York

Field Office for Secret Service. Threw me up against the wall and you know, had the gun on my side. You had to commit a crime just to get access just to make to be able to connect to another computer over a wall. And so how do you think you guys changed the the world? It opened up

access for everyone. Information wants to be free. I also added that.

This episode was recorded offsite at an undisclosed hotel with the Parmaster. Par- Parmaster, Parmaster. Good to Good to meet you. Thank you for doing this. Thank you so much for having me. Let's start with your your origin story and let's just start from the beginning. Where Where'd you grow up? Um Northeast Iowa