The Changing Physics of Cybersecurity and Drug Development with OpenAI President Greg Brockman

to ensure AGI benefits [music] all of humanity. We think that humans should be firmly in the driver seat, should have control over the [music] future, and this technology should amplify human agency. When I look at the world we're going [music] to be in, where software in some ways is becoming like the barrier to entry, it's becoming so

cheap. You don't just want software, right? You want software that is reliable, that is secure, [music] that you can believe in. And so, cyber spend, security spend should actually vastly outstrip [music] software spend. I think that people have not yet really internalized how much the physics around cybersecurity are going [music] to change. there's an opportunity to end up

with a much more secure world.

>> Hi listeners, welcome back to No Priors. Today, Elad and I talk with Greg Brockman, the co-founder and president of OpenAI. >> [music] >> We discuss OpenAI's latest math results, Astra, and why Greg believes AI can now generate genuinely new knowledge. We get into drug discovery dots, and his case for why security spending should

actually vastly outstrip software spending, which is quite a claim. Here's our conversation with Greg Brockman. Greg, thanks so much for doing this. >> Thanks for joining us. >> Thank you for having me. >> So, every week in AI feels like a year, and a lot's happened this week for OpenAI. Uh you rolled out GPT-6 to over

a billion people, which is pretty amazing. Um there's some really exciting news that you have on the math side. Um there's all sorts of things that undoubtedly that are happening internally. What are you most excited about that's happening right now both at OpenAI and in the broader AI world? >> Look, I think that in AI, like I have