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Wikum. Hey. [snorts] All right.

What the heck? All right, bro. What the heck? Let me get my other account in real quick. Guys, let's make sure we like and share the live, inshallah. Repost if we can. All right.

Okay. Okay, let's get the likes and shares up. Repost if you can, inshallah. Let's get people in here. If you're a non-Muslim, feel free to request up.

>> Hello. >> Hello. >> Yeah. What's up, man? >> Are you Muslim? >> I am Muslim. What are you? Are you sure that you are a Muslim? >> I'm sure, sir. What are you? >> I'm a reborn Christian. >> Nice. So, do you have a question about Islam or do you want to prove

Christianity is true? >> I want to prove that your Islam is false. Are you ready? >> That's not the prompt. It's either why are you not Muslim or you prove Christianity is true if you're a Christian. >> Okay. I show you >> why Christianity is true. is the meaning of the word I show you.

>> What are you going to show me, sir? >> Why you interrupt me? >> Because this is my live and I run it the way that I want to. What are you going to show me? Yes. What are you going to show? >> I show you that Islam is false. Are you ready?

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>> Hello. How are you, Joanna? Hello. Uh nice to meet you actually. >> Nice to meet you too. Are you Christian? >> Uh actually I am I think that uh every religion uh is true. So I think I don't think the Christians are the only one that um have the rights to be the true religion.

Uh I think the Muslims have their own and the Christians have their own and we everybody are looking at the same thing just from different places. >> Okay. But the problem is is that they can't all be true at the same time because many of them because they contradict each other in their key

concepts. >> So for example uh Christians believe that Jesus died and resurrected for the sake of their sins but Muslims say no that's false. Right. So that can't they can't both be correct. >> Yeah. But uh I think that um we interpret um we are interpreting or like um I'm sorry for my English. I can't

talk so good but I understand everything. >> H but I think we um we understand the things uh in different ways. I think uh before a long time ago we had another language and we spoke in uh another um in another like we we used to uh >> but Joanna this is this is what you

think right there's no actual proof for this right what we have proof of is the books that we have today right and those books they don't they don't agree with each other in many different things okay the for example the Quran, it says the only way to God is through Islam. Okay? So, anything that's not Islam cannot be

the way to God. So, Christianity can't be to God. Judaism can't be God. Uh, sorry, to God. Uh, Hinduism can't be to God. It can only be Islam according to Islam. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. So I need to be like um go to Mus and uh tell the imam that I believe only in Muhammad or what?

>> So you would say that you testify that there is only one God who is worthy of worship. Okay. And that Muhammad peace be upon him is his final messenger. Meaning um obviously that there is only one God, right? And that he's the only one worthy of worship. And then when you testify Muhammad peace be upon him is

the final prophet, you're you're affirming the message that he comes with and the message that the prior prophets previously came with which is all the same and it all leads back to the same one God. Now the problem is >> the problem is is that those prophets okay their message is no longer with us

today to its fullest extent. Okay, you understand? >> Yeah. >> Right. So the reason why Muhammad peace be upon him was sent to all of the people is because he is correcting what the people mistook the message to be. You understand? >> Okay. Yeah. >> Right. So if you believe he's a true

prophet then obviously you would become a Muslim. Right. I can't I can tell you that uh I I believe that uh all this is true but I believe that Christianity has their own truth also. So um no I can't agree that Islam is the only way to God. I think there many ways just but do you agree?

No. Well again the many ways it can't all be true. Okay. Do you understand why it can't all be true? >> We we may be interpretating interpreting >> if if if somebody tells you Joanna, if somebody tells you this is the only way to do XYZ, can there be any other way? >> But where is it? Um

>> I got you. I'll show you the verse. >> Thank you.

here. Chapter 3 verse 85 of the Quran and 3:19 if I'm not mistaken. Uh here this one's very clear. Okay, one second. Can you see my screen? >> Yes. >> Uh yeah, I see. >> So this is chapter 3:85. It says whoever seeks a way other than Islam, it will never be accepted from them and in the

hereafter they will be among the losers. So >> who is them? >> Anybody anybody who ever tries to go and find something other than Islam, they will be one of the losers in the in the hereafter. >> Okay. But it it it says whoever seeks a way other than Islam >> will never be accepted from them. But

who's them? >> From the one who tries to seek something other than Islam. >> Them is the people who try to seek something other than Islam. >> You understand? So the Quran says this, the Bible also says this, right? In terms of its own belief. Hinduism is the same way, right? All of these different

beliefs have specific things about them that make it so that you can't believe in both at the same time. They can't both be true at the same time. >> Yeah, I I understand. But I um >> so it's not just interpretation, right? >> Uh yeah, but I think um Christianity actually get attacked by the um by the

devil. Um so or people I think um and the language um or the devil was smart smart enough to not attacking the only um Bible but even the language that it was written in in from the beginning. >> Well that's that's the reason why a clarification was sent to us though. Yeah, I know. That's Yeah. And uh and um

why are we still fighting with each other when God teach us to love each other? I don't think that I don't think that even if you are a mis Muslim and you hate another religion, um I don't think you're going to go to heaven just because you were a Muslim. Uh, I think even if you were Christian

and Muslim was the right religion and you was a and you were a Christian but you loved every people and you were kind and all those things. Uh, I think you're going to go to heaven because >> Okay, but that's what you Hold on. Hold on. But that's what you think. Okay. What the books say is otherwise. Okay.

It says here it would never be accepted from them. >> Okay. But the books says also tell us to uh like use our brain and thinking. >> Yes. And when we read when we read the passage Joanna and we use our brain, what does never mean? >> What? What they never mean? >> What does the word never here? This word

right here, what does that mean? >> Never. >> Yeah, it means it can't. H but I don't think that's that's a good god. >> Okay. But that that's what you believe. Okay. That's what you're perceiving. That's based off of your own misunderstanding. Okay. The Bible says the same thing. Judaism says the same

thing, right? Hinduism, all of these different beliefs say the same thing. >> Okay. But okay, >> so it can't all be true. That's that's the point. Okay, maybe I don't know that much, but I think that uh if you um if you choosing love in your life and um um you guide you let it guide you.

>> Okay, but where where are you getting this? Also, sorry. One second, bro. Stop begging. I'm not I'm not bringing you up. Uh where where did you get this concept from? um from like from my heart. >> Okay. But what so why should we accept >> love from love and I think love coming

from God because I don't think uh there is no other um existence that has so much love within themselves like God does. So I think we can >> okay but Joanna look for example right if somebody comes to me and says that in my heart okay I believe um you know eating people is a good thing right

>> should we should we accept what's in their heart >> but that's not love >> okay but but it doesn't matter if you think it's love or not that's what they think love is should we accept what what's in their heart >> no >> why thoughts >> because it's wrong to eat people and we

know it by by from yeah that's the moral and ethics we got from from who >> that tells us in which in which book >> um I my I think my problem here is that I didn't read the Quran and I would love to uh read it before I would uh before I

talk to you because >> um I think I would learn a lot of things to um and I would bring up a lot of things that I would like to understand better and you are very good at explaining things. >> That's perfectly fine. >> So, uh I'm sorry for that. So, I can't

like tell you a lot of I can't tell you much about it because I don't know much about it. >> It's okay. Look, as long as as long as you get that, you know, the thing that you were saying at first is wrong, okay? Or at least wrong in regards to what most religions will perceive, right?

That's fine. That's progress to me. Okay? If you need to um if you need to go and study more, read more, that's perfectly fine. I I go live pretty much all the time. Um so you could always come back after you start reading, even if it's just a little bit, and we could

talk about it more if you have any questions or anything. Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Anything else you want to ask? >> No. Thank you for now. >> All right. No problem, Joanna. Have a good night. >> Good night. >> Bye. >> Bye. Bye.

>> Hello. >> Uh I I just have a question if if you don't mind. >> Okay. Uh can you just tell me are you Muslim? >> Yeah, I'm Muslim. >> Yeah. Go ahead, bro. Uh I I just had a question about like what what a salafi is because like I've done I've done a bit of research on it

and I've asked different people but I haven't gotten like a straight answer. >> It just refers to those who follow the first three generations. So the prophet peace be upon him's generation, the generation after that and the generation after that. When you follow in the opinions of those specific people um you'd be considered quote unquote sali,

>> right? >> Okay. >> And is that part of >> Yes. Okay. Okay. Cool. Thank you. Sorry. >> No problem, bro. Have a good night. >> All right.

>> Hello. >> Hello. >> Yeah. What's up, ma'am? >> Oh, yeah. Uh, I want to ask a question about what was it? Uh, the age of consent because it was like, >> can you tell me what you believe in, sir? >> I'm Muslim, but I just want to ask a question. >> Okay. Why didn't you say salam? Nothing.

Okay. >> Oh, sorry. I I think my thing got up. >> All right. No problem, bro. What's What's the question? >> His thing is that uh you can concede like I agree with the whole like mental maturity because it's like uh in the past whatever. Yeah. But from a biological perspective, if we take it

that what is it? Uh it's just that you have to reach progressence. But we know that even if a person has reached pubescence, there's still a harm associated with it. Like oh what was it called? like they are like if a nine-year-old let's say >> you if there's any harm that takes place

irrespective of age or maturity or anything of the sort you're not allowed to engage in the particular act. So the harm principle also takes place regardless. >> Yeah I know but like even let's say like how how can they determine that cuz like you have the harm. Yeah. If if the person says that they feel pain, then

you you're not allowed to engage in this particular thing. Or if they think that they're going to be in pain, you're not allowed to engage in it. And then it would be uh between them and Allah at that point. >> Yeah. But see, then they would like uh you have to test out first basically,

isn't it? >> No. If the person says I'm going to be in pain, then they can choose not to engage in the particular thing. So then it would just be between them and Allah if they're telling the truth or lying. How? Okay, hold on. >> Because for example, somebody could say I'm going to be in pain, but not

necessarily refer to physical pain, right? It could be some sort of emotional pain, right? >> Okay. But like I'm saying I'm saying from like a standard like if we take it that okay, we there's no pain but it's it varies, isn't it? Like it varies. So shouldn't it be that they complete their

uh their puberty instead of like just on the onset? that that presumes that presumes, right? Because we have to understand as well that it's going to be the case that you're going to be able to determine for every single individual when they have fully completed pubescence, right? But what we go based off of is the uh specific markers,

right? Um and these markers, they can overlap with each other in different stages. Do you know like the Tanner stages and stuff? Yes. >> Yeah. Monarchy. Yeah. >> Right. So, so these different stages, they have certain markers that can show in different uh ways for different people. Hence the reason why when we see

like the majority of the markers which I have a video on by on my YouTube um uh showing that each of the specific um uh st uh markers sorry uh that Islam gives in regards to physical pubescence uh and and even mental maturity uh actually pass at the very least tenor stage four.

So um Tanner stage four and tanner stage five there's very very little difference between the two of them. But the point being, right, is that back then, right, the people aren't going to be able to determine it based off of, oh well, the difference here is slightly significant in comparison to this stage. Uh what

they're going to look for is those key markers, right? They're not going to know whether the person is fully completely done unless you know they had these sorts of technologies that we have today. I guess you could say in that way, right? But they will have a general idea or conception of it, which is how

we've always operated as a society. >> Okay. Okay. So then would you say okay so it has to be all the physical conditions are met which is like the development of breast the what was it the like weight gain and wet dreams stuff like that that all has to be met or is it just

>> well even even then even then because those can appear in different ways in people right there would have to be some sort of marker that is going to be able to establish that this person has reached physical maturity. So that could be for example coarse uh coarse pubic care which only appears um uh either

from 10 or stage 4 onwards. It could be the appearance of full breasts which is also going to be from tenor stage 4 and further. It can be from obviously one having their period uh in a stable manner. It could be from wet dreams. It could be from a number of different things as it pertains to physical

maturity, right? Uh the point being uh it's going to be it's it's going to have to be marked by one of these markers which as we could see today is going to be you know pretty much >> all those like conditions you mentioned are all kind of stage four or five is >> yes and I have a video on my YouTube if

you want to check it out as well. Oh, okay. Well, okay. Yeah. Then nowadays, would you say the age of consent would be 18 then? Well, according to >> like those things could be reached they're reached around the ages of like 15 to 17. Um but in different areas. >> Yeah, I know. I know. But what would you

what would you agree like today is >> depends on where you live cuz not every single place is going to be the same, right? >> Yeah. But if if we go like to like for example like Afghanistan or whatever like the reason what I'm concerned is that you have even if they do reach like

okay they they're 18 or whatever like they reach the ability to have intercourse if a man like an older man yeah they you know have like marry the girl off from young from a how you say like predatory point of view like even if >> right but people doing people doing something wrong or doing something in a

way where scholars are displeased with or say is even wrong. Uh then that's on fault of the person, right? There is nobody who's reaching this age uh today uh the same way that they did back then. We we just don't observe that statistically speaking according to you know the data that we have and so on. So

these people who engage in this type of thing are wrong. >> Yeah. It's you're talking about like when mental maturity was reached anarchy is it? Yes. Back then. Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying that even if a person like oh yeah I agree with that mental maturity thing but like let's say a person who's

18 yeah marrying someone who's like 50 years in their 60s I'd still argue that would be wrong since coming from like a place of why would you want to marry in the first place even if legally it's wrong it's you know because they've been mentally >> no both legally and from the it's not

necessarily wrong like here in the US for example if you're 18 you're allowed to marry like a 70-year-old >> well well socially wrong >> socially wrong socially wrong shows just you know people's perception of the relationship and it's usually not because you know they think oh like how are they going to engage in this xyz act

it's more of like you know uh xyz person's using the other one right for the most part that's >> they question the motives of the person >> but I mean questioning the person's motives I mean different people get married for different reasons some people get married simply because they want to hide the fact that they're you

know whatever right um some people get married because they want money some people get married because you know they really want to have kids but they don't really care about you know having a relationship ship or anything. So, it's not it's not really something where you could say because people judge the motives ergo uh they should not get

married, right? Cuz that that that could apply to any relationship. >> Okay, then. But like Yeah, sure. Okay. Yeah, that's fine. That's fair. But and the one I want to add is that from Aisha's perspective at 9 years old, did she have the ter stage four? I'm not I didn't read specifically into it, but

she reached minarchi. I don't know if that's ten or stage like four or five, but >> yeah, that would be ten or stage four or like some some say like towards the end of three it could begin, but typically speaking it would be four. >> Yeah, cuz like I I like cuz a 9-year-old

like it's able to have intercourse. Yeah. The whole thing. But the pelvic structure is like not developed like if >> that's only what we observe that's only what we observe today and specifically here in the west as well. There are many different places where you could also observe that back um you know being

different or not being the case because generally speaking the pelvic structure also develops around the time the individual reaches monarch. So it would also be tenor stage 4 when you start to see that. >> Yeah. But that that's that's what I'm talking about cuz like you said about markers but shouldn't it be all the

factors that are uh counted >> but remember what I told you before is that certain markers aren't necessarily measurable right? You're not like going around every day measuring the girl's pelvic bone structure or anything. >> Yeah, I know. But I'm just saying like uh what was it like the woman at the time would judge of the girl if they

were ready for >> Yeah. So it's judge based off the appearance, right? >> So they would check like oh if they have pubic hair or if the like breasts are developed like they would check multiple things. What I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So it should be that is they would check all the markers not necessarily

just one. No. >> Yeah. But that presumes that they also would have known all the markers, right? But if you have a general conception of these markers that you could observe in every single person who's able to do XYZ act right or not able to do it rather um then then it would be it would be

sufficient because if they're both going to fall under the same tanner stage let's say like monarch and uh coarse pubic hair right then you could say yes this person has reached um you know a a level of development where it's typical in regards to what other people reach it out right it would it would just be like

if you see one marker in the tanner stage but you don't observe the other one yet let's say okay that doesn't mean that the person is not at that stage it just simply means that they are developing it in a slightly different manner but typically when you see the marker appear for a specific stage you

would say this person is in XYZ stage >> okay yeah >> um yeah sure that's fine yeah but uh one more question I want to ask is that why isn't it that women are not allowed to give like aan in the mosque and stuff like that or I don't know if this is

like a cultural thing but when I went to a funeral my mother or some of the women like relatives were not allowed into the place I don't know that's cultural or the religious text just know >> well women don't give the because firstly we don't see that being practiced during the time of the prophet

peace be upon him one uh two if it's the case that there are men there's no reason for the woman to be you know uh giving the adan so that multitude of men are going to hear her you know you have to in a loud voice and so on. >> Okay. >> Right.

>> But like why like from Okay. Yeah. Sure. Fine. But like is that because the man's voice is more like louder that >> you could say it's more louder and just simply because it's not something that we ever observed in the time of the prophet peace be upon him. So >> okay. And is it that can women allow it

to be in graves by the way like in funerals? >> They are provided that they're not going to be whailing. And the same goes for men. Men who wail in the in the funeral sites are also not allowed to be there. >> Okay. Well, yeah. Kind of answers all my thing. I just

>> want to know that before I go to sleep. It's like 12:30 around here. But thank you for all answering all those questions. Thank you. >> All right. Bye. Okay.

Hello. Okay. Goodbye.

Um

Hello. >> Interesting. All right, Tachi. >> Yeah, what's up? >> Why are men allowed to get pregnant in heaven? >> What kind of question?

Hello >> [laughter] >> Yo, I haven't heard one of those things in so long. Men's men's men's unlocked the childhood memory, bro.

>> Hello, Lucas. Sorry, I I'll I'll request later. Oh, >> okay, bro. No problem. All right. >> Um, I'm trying to find non-Muslims, bro. I don't know who's non-Muslim and who isn't, but Hello. >> Hello. >> Uh, I I just uh pressed the wrong button. Sorry. >> All right, bro. No problem.

>> Hello. >> Yo. Yo. >> Yeah. What's up, man? >> Yeah. I just want to ask a question and um and leave, right? I just want to ask a question and leave. Do you do you love Jews? Like, do you love Jews? You as a Muslim? >> No. >> No. No. >> Then why all the prophets were Jews?

Like from from from Jesus from >> I don't believe that they were Jews. I believe that they were Muslim. >> Well, Jesus was raised in a Jewish society. So, yeah. I don't know. >> Ethnically, sure. [snorts] So, I I love them in terms of their, you know, who they are specifically, but they were

Muslim. They're not Jewish. >> Even though Jews >> Was Moses Jewish? >> Killed them. >> Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Was Moses Jewish? Uh, religiously, uh, >> religiously he believed he won God, but like was he religious or not? I don't know. >> Okay. Well, then there's your answer, right? Cuz the Bible doesn't call him

Jewish. >> Well, I don't know if Judaism was in the time of Moses. I don't know. I don't know if >> Well, they say that he's the one who started Judaism. >> Oh, okay. Well, if he started, then he's a Jew, right? No, >> but there's no evidence of that. That's the point. It's just a claim.

uh >> there's no evidence that you know Jesus was quote unquote calling himself Jewish by religion. >> There's no evidence of any of the prophets calling themselves that. >> Okay. >> And um one question u why why why does your God in the Quran says we and not him? Right? >> That's called the royal we. So the royal

we is used to to emphasize a specific uh majesty of the individual who's speaking. Um you could see the same thing happen with uh like kings. Kings can send out a party to speak on their behalf and they will use a uh royal wei as well. So it's both in Arabic as well

as in Hebrew. So it's common to the Seemetic languages. >> Okay. So So uh do you love Jews or not? Like do you love Jews or not? Because I'm a Jew actually. >> Cool.

Hello. Hello. Naz Nazerus. Okay. Oh, Nazeros. Okay. I thought that was a Nazarene. Uh, all right. Hello. >> Hello. >> Yeah. What's up, Mom? Can you turn the music off? >> Hey, can you hear me? >> Yeah. Can you just turn the music off? >> One second. >> Sorry.

>> Maybe. Can you hear me now? >> I can hear you now. Yeah. Uh why do we have to let religion depict us as people? Can't we just love one another? Uh >> does religion play? Yeah, I feel like it's racism. >> Do you love people like Jeffrey Dormer? >> Well, I mean people [ __ ] up and make

their own decisions. >> So, do you still love Jeffrey Dormer? >> I don't know. I don't I don't know. But >> no. So, wait. Why don't you love Jeffrey Dormer? Didn't you just come up here practicing love one another? >> Well, he's a radicalist, I guess. Cuz why can't people just love each other?

Why does racist >> Why don't you love him? That's what I'm asking. >> Why should I? Why should I? >> You just told me we should love each other. >> Yeah, why not? >> So why don't you have to debake? It's like racism. >> So why don't you love Jeffrey Dmer, bro? >> Okay. Okay. Let me ask you somebody

else. Do you love Jeffrey Epstein? >> I don't like any of these people. >> Okay. Why not? You just told me to love each other. Love one another. Love. >> Let me slow down. >> These people are radicalists. They do crazy [ __ ] >> So you don't love them. >> Why can't

>> No. Hell no. >> Okay. So you agree that there are people who shouldn't be loved, right? >> Uh at one point for [ __ ] they do. >> I believe the same thing. >> All right. But why can't people get along? Why does >> you think you would get along with Epstein?

>> Probably not. He's a sick [ __ ] >> There you go. So I mean I I don't believe I'm going to get along with everybody either. >> Okay. But I belong I feel like if I met somebody tomorrow, I wouldn't bias them on their religion, race or anything. >> I don't have to bias you off the

religion. Islam doesn't teach that. It says to be Hold on. Hold on. Hold on, bro. >> All right. Yeah, I'll let you go. >> We We don't We don't believe that, bro. We believe that you should be just to those who are just to you. You should be kind to those who are kind to you.

>> But if I'm kind to everybody, >> then they should be Well, if they're Muslims, they should be kind back to you. I mean, I I met a lot of Jews and black people and [ __ ] They're kind to me. >> That's fine. Muslims, >> I'm not racist. I'm not whatever. I'm

just a kind person. Give what you >> kindness is spewing from your mouth, man. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's what I mean. >> All right. >> Why does it have to depict racism in religion? >> There's no >> Why does that have to rule our lives? >> What does that have to do with racism?

>> Because everybody says that you have to be Muslim or you have to be Catholic or you have to be this. >> That's not racism. Do you know what racism is? >> No, no, no, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying why can't people just get along? Why does it have to be race?

Why does it have to be religion? >> That is not a race, bro. There are different people from different races. >> I understand that. You're going way beyond. >> Well, I I think you you don't understand it. >> No, you don't understand. I'm white. >> What is racism? Okay. Okay. I'm also white. Isn't that crazy?

>> Okay. But that means I shouldn't like black people. I shouldn't like >> Who said you [laughter] shouldn't like black people? >> You. >> I never said that. >> It's on your You have to be something or whatever. >> Yeah, there are black Muslims and I love my black Muslim brothers and sisters.

>> I like my black people, too. Hell yeah. >> All right, man. I guess we're on the same page. The only difference is I don't like you because you're not Muslim, bro. >> I'm not Muslim. Why do I have to be Muslim for you to like me? Because I I think that the best of people are those

who are the best to God and give God. >> I can't be a cool ass dude because I'm not Muslim. You don't like me. >> Yeah. You You can't be a cool ass dude to me if you don't worship God, bro. To me my own way. I'm Catholic. I worship God. >> Let's Let's go with that then. Okay.

What if What if you're wrong about the way that you worship gods? Wouldn't you want to find the right way? >> Well, what's the right way? I can't worship and be respectful to people. Isn't that what it all comes down to? >> No, because well that would be part of it, right? But that's not the whole of

it. Okay. >> The right >> most of it. It's called respect. Respect the most as they are. It's not the most because you're not doing anything. Take my religion. >> You're not doing anything for God in that case, right? That's only for yourself. >> I'm I'm doing in God by respecting other people.

>> Okay. So, how do you respect gods? >> They're hell yeah. How do you >> You send me a friend request. I respect God by being kind. And >> I I only send friend requests to other people, bro. >> You don't have to. I mean, I can become Muslim, but then that makes you like,

>> come on. I have to be Muslim for you to be my friend. >> Of course. Well, I mean, technically, no, cuz you know, you're a guy. >> No, that's what you just said. I have to be a Muslim. >> But I mean, you're a guy and I'm a girl, so I don't I don't befriend guys.

>> Either way, I have to be a Muslim for you to respect me. >> No, that's not true either. I didn't say >> you just said that. your own words. >> No, I mean I mean more so because you don't respect gods, right? >> I respect God. I respect women of respect for you if you respected God

properly. >> I respect everybody, bro. >> But I don't think you respect God the right way. >> I respect God by doing my own part by respect. >> Do you believe Jesus is God? >> I believe everybody can do what they want. And I >> No, that's not what I asked you. I asked

you, do you believe Jesus is God? >> No. Jesus is God's son. >> Okay. What does that mean? >> I'm Catholic. It means that Jesus was gave his life to respect everybody. >> So Jesus is not God, right? >> Well, I'm not very biblical like you are, but in the end, I believe that.

>> Yo, Nick, do you know anything about God, bro? >> Do you know anything about God, Nick? >> Sorry, I'm not a big on Bible studies. >> I'm sorry. I believe his part was everybody should treat each other with respect. >> All right. So, who is God then? >> Sorry, I'm not very biblical like you

are. But in the end, >> No, you can delete me and cut me off. I don't care. >> No, I'm honestly I'm having fun. I I like this conversation. I think I think it's a lot more productive. >> Hell yeah. >> Yeah, man. >> I think I think this conversation is a lot better than most of the ones I have.

So, >> yeah. Hell yeah, bro. >> Hell yeah, bro. [ __ ] religion. >> Okay, I didn't say all that. Everybody's people. >> You killed it. You killed it. Killed it. >> You had to ruin it, man. You had to ruin it. You had to ruin it.

Hello. Hi, baby. >> Okay.

Hello. >> Hello. >> Yeah. What's up, huh? >> I'm good. How are you? >> I'm doing just fine. Are you Christian, Jewish, atheist? >> Yeah, I'm not religious. >> Uh, do you believe in God? >> No. >> Okay. Do you have a question about STEM? Yeah, I do. >> All right. What's up?

>> Like why are you doing all of this? Like why are you trying to spread Islam? What do you gain from doing that? >> Uh because uh one of the commands in the Quran is that if we have knowledge, we are to spread it. So >> um you know, if we know something in

regards to Islam and we see somebody who is not a Muslim, we are told to, you know, spread the message to them. >> But why though? Like why is that mandatory? >> It's not that it's mandatory. It's something it's like more of uh somebody who knows something. It's like okay, for example, let's say you were

in a building, okay, and you see a fire, right? Is it mandatory for you to go and tell people that there's a fire in the building? >> Yeah, but that's not the same thing. >> No. No. Is it mandator? >> Hold on. Hold on. Is it mandatory >> or can somebody else do it? Right. Hold

on. Can somebody else do it? >> Yeah. >> Right. But you don't have to do it. There's nothing that literally forces you to do it. You could just, you know, take it like, you know, see it and then leave, right? >> Yeah. But that's not comparable to spreading religion. >> No. To us, we do believe that it is,

right? Cuz that fire because because we believe that there is a fire eventually that people can potentially end up in. >> So they end up if they don't know about Islam. >> Sorry. >> So you're saying they end up in that fire if they don't know about Islam? >> No, not if they don't know. If they

don't accept it, right? So if they study Islam or if somebody presented Islam to them and the truths or proofs and evidences of Islam and they didn't approach it with sincerity in terms of studying it then uh they would be you know they could be punished by that. You understand? So in the same way of

that fire example it would be the same thing with me. I don't have to tell you that there's a fire but it would probably be better for me and my conscience to tell you. You understand? >> Right. But basically, so that's what I'm saying. It's not comparable because the fire is like guaranteed to harm you.

>> That fire guaranteed to >> No, but if you don't know about it, you just said if you don't know about it that you're not going to, you know, go >> most people have heard about Islam, bro. Like especially if you're like, if you're if you're on TikTok, I'm pretty sure you've heard of Islam, bro.

>> In the history of humanity, most people have not heard about Islam. >> I'm not talking about the history of humanity. I'm not speaking to the history of humanity. >> Yeah. But you said most people. >> I'm speaking. >> You said most people. >> Yeah, but I'm saying in the context of Tik Tok. I'm on Tik Tok. Am I speaking

to all of humanity? >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What about those people that they didn't haven't heard of? >> No, those people those people they have a different type of test. So we we wouldn't we wouldn't say that it's the same thing. >> Yeah, but why is it arbitrary? Why doesn't everyone have the same test?

>> No, because different people have different people have different tests. It's not an exception. It's just a means of I'm getting to it. If you let me finish, I will get to it. Okay, so it's not an exception. It's just a different test. Okay, the test is still similar or the same in respect to monotheism or

polytheism. You can't be a polytheist and enter paradise because monotheism is something that you could come to a natural conclusion of. Whereas polytheism or the rejection of any sort of uh god or anything of the sort, which we would constitute as polytheism in Islam, then you you're either way, whether Islam reaches you or not, you

would go to hell. Okay. Because this is something that you could reach to. >> You just said it's the same test. >> This is something you could reach. This is something you could reach using your intellect. Okay. >> That's still an exception. Do you know what what an exception is? >> All right, bro. You're annoying.

If you want to burn, burn, bro. It's not my problem. Bro's crying because I'm telling him there's a fire. >> Hello. >> Hello. >> Yeah. What's up, man? I'm a Christian and I have a question for you. So, you know how in your book it says about the Romans destroying uh well rewarding our Bible?

>> Sorry. Is that >> right? >> So, you know how the Romans back in the day, they came to all the villages and they rewrote all the Bibles. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> So, how are there 60 Bibles in our religion? Don't ask me. Go ask your rel the your religious figures.

>> Okay. I have a question for you. Why do you believe in Islam? >> Why do I believe in Islam? Because there's substantial proof and evidence for, you know, uh the probability of it being true uh in opposition to any other belief system. >> Have you ever questioned it before or just strictly believe?

>> I mean, I'm technically I question it every day when people come up here and ask me questions about it. Right. Have you studied other religions? >> I I have. >> And it still led you back to the Quran? >> Yes, sir. >> In every religion. >> I didn't say every religion, but I'm

saying in regards to those that have a higher likelihood of being being true. Yeah. >> Okay. And some Muslims have said that as us, we as Christians, we believe in Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the Father. and we pray to those. Is that the right way to pray or would you say in your religion that's the

wrong way to pray because >> No, we believe that that's wrong. >> And do you believe you guys believe that you should only be praying to one God? >> Yes. Correct. >> Do you do you believe that you should pray to more than one god? >> No. In our in our Christianity, I do

believe that Prince Jesus is wrong. The Holy Spirit is God and the Father is God. >> How many gods is that? >> How many Sorry, >> how many gods is that? >> Well, we we believe we mean the Holy Spirit is God. >> You said the Holy Spirit is God, Jesus is God, and the Father is God. How many

gods is that? >> No, but it's the same God. >> How is it the same God? Jesus isn't his father, right? >> Can the son Can you as a son be your own father? No. >> Right. So the son is not the father, right? >> Okay. And what and if we >> hold on, hold on, hold on. But you call

them both god, right? It's like I call you human and your father human. Are you both the same human? >> Okay, I see. >> Right. How many gods? >> And there's three gods. >> That's the problem that we have with Christianity or trinitarians at the very least. >> Okay. And if and we pray to those and if

we pray to those you believe we go to hell cuz we're not we're not praying. >> I mean I don't believe that that's the only reason why but yeah that would be one of the reasons. >> What other reason? >> That's the main reason. >> The other reasons is you know obviously provided the idea that you have heard

about Islam um or you know you've seen some sort of way to be able to coni be convinced of Islam and you reject it uh that would also be a reason. You have to accept Muhammad peace be upon him as the final prophet of God because in doing that you're also accepting everything that the other

prophets did as well and said make sense. >> Yeah, that makes sense. >> Yeah. >> And you believe all three of the trinities are wrong in their religion? >> Yeah. There's no such thing as a trinity. In re in reality, there is only one God who is the creator of all things. Even the Bible says that, right?

Here, O Israel, the Lord your God, the Lord is one, right? Not three, not two, >> one. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much for your time. >> So, wait, hold on. Where are you going? >> I just came to ask that's the all the questions. >> Oh, let me ask you something, ma'am.

>> Yeah, sure. >> If you if you recognize that this is obviously something that's wrong, right? Why would you still remain in that belief or will you still remain in that belief? >> Well, obviously so far for me my journey has been to question whether God has not been this is what I've been questioning

recently whether or not God is real. >> Okay. >> And obviously I've been researching that. >> There's there's definitely evidence in both religions that God is real. Okay. Um evidence would be things like prophecies and such for example. >> Yeah, that's what I've come across. >> Right. So >> the the only issue is is whether or not

this belief system has any mistakes. Okay? >> Cuz now I'm a Christian. That's what I want. >> Right? But the problem the problem like we just spoke about earlier with the Trinity, right? Is that if there's a mistake in this belief system, it can't actually be something that's from God, right? Or not in its totality at the

very least, right? >> In your guys's Quran, it says your your guys Quran is is the word is the word of God. So no, it's not the word god. His name is Allah. One of his names is Allah. He has multiple names. >> Yeah. In your Quran, it's written through all Muhammad. >> Uh

>> come from the angels to Muhammad. >> It comes from God to the angel Gabriel to Muhammad peace be upon him. And he orates it to the people. He goes and he speaks it to them. >> Yeah. And in our Bible is written by the word of man. >> Sure. Yeah. But some of it is obviously

things that God had given to these men in the past. So like the other prior prophets, right? Like the prophecies for example that come to pass, those we can confirm that they come from God because nobody else is going to know the future except for God, right? >> Yeah. >> Right. So what I'm saying is okay, the

only issue or differences between the Quran and the Bible, right, is that the Bible has mistakes in it whereas the Quran doesn't. So the Quran would be more accurate in representing who God is. >> And do you believe that God is perfect? >> Of course. >> So in the Bible, he wouldn't be making

these mistakes. >> Exactly. So if he was making mistakes, he can't be perfect. He can't be all knowing, etc. Right. >> So anyone that's perfect is God in this life. >> Uh well, nobody can be perfect except for God. Right? Because anything that's created by definition has an imperfection because it is not

self-sufficient. You understand? >> Yeah. >> Right. So the only one that can be perfect in all of existence is God. >> Okay. Um how many times do you go live a day? >> I go live once a day every day for two hours. So 700 p.m. Eastern. You're in the UK? >> Yeah.

>> What time is it for you now? Uh, it's around 1:00 now. >> Uh, yeah. So, I go live around midnight your time. >> Okay. Do you mind if I come back to you with some more questions about >> Of course. Of course. No problem. >> Thank you for your time. >> All right, man. No problem. Bye.

>> Okay.

>> Hello. >> Hello, Jolene. How are you? >> Hi. I'm good. How are you? >> Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah. Praise be to God. How's it been the last few days? >> Um, good. It's going all right. I'm not very far into my Quran at all, but >> Okay. I um was telling my friend that

that I did my shahada and stuff and um she had some questions and I wanted to ask you about um some of your favorite miracles in the Quran by Muhammad or just in general. >> Um so there are many many miracles in the Quran that are recorded. Um but some of the ones from the prophet peace be

upon him uh they're not all in the Quran, right? They're they're in I believe we spoke about it briefly in the hadith corpus. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So the hadith is essentially the traditions and teachings of the prophet peace be upon him. Right. And these are things that the people observed him either say or do and they recorded it

down because he's a historical figure. Okay. Um some of these miracles or one of the biggest ones which is mentioned both in the Quran and in the hadith is the miracle of the splitting of the moon. Okay. um the people or the disbelievers at the time of the prophet peace be upon him they basically came to

him and they challenged him right or they were essentially saying you know like even if you split this moon which I doubt you can do we wouldn't you know be Muslim okay and so he says to him okay well or rather he said they they said to him if you split the moon then we'll

become Muslim and he says if I really split this moon for you guys are you going to actually become Muslim so uh prays to God and God allows for it to be the case that he splits the moon okay And then it obviously it goes back together and the people look at it and

they say, "Oh my god, like he must be a magician or something." Okay? So that they could reject him as a prophet. But what they next did is that they would go they went to the caravans that were still coming into the country. Okay? They never heard the prophet peace be upon him say this or anything, but they

themselves also saw the event take place. Okay? So they went and they asked them and they told them, "Yes, we saw the same thing." You understand? So the quote unquote magic that they tried to accuse to uh sorry accuse him of doing they ended up saying you know that it can't be the case that his magic is

going to be able to extend to all of the world or all of the people outside. >> You understand? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean that's that's definitely one of the major ones that the prophet peace be upon him performed in his lifetime. Even the Quran itself is a miracle. It's a linguistic miracle. the

the way that it's um you know uh uh transcribed and or rated and everything of the sort even even in in regards to its memorization the memorization for it has been e made easy to the point where anybody even if you don't speak Arabic right um there are people who don't speak Arabic don't read it don't write

it but they have the entire book cover to cover memorized you see >> oh wow >> yeah so I mean there's there's so many different ones and even if you go like if you want to know more of like in-depth ones. If you go on YouTube and type in Miracles of the Quran, uh you

could see so many different ones as well. >> Okay, I'll do that. >> Okay. Anything else? >> All right. Thank you, sister. >> Of course. >> That's all. Thank you. >> No problem. So, Michael. >> Okay. Bye. >> Bye. >> She just took her shahada a couple days ago. May Allah keep her guided. A mean a. All

right. Hello, Leita. Hello. All right. Um, goodbye.

>> Hello. >> Diego, >> can you hear me? I can but you sound a little bit farther away. If you can come closer. >> Okay then. Apologies to that connect. >> Okay, no problem. Just come back whenever. Okay. All right. Bye. Let's see.

Hello. >> Andre, [clears throat] I sound like I'm working. >> Do you have a question, bro? >> No, I just want to say that you're doing excellent, Atachi. I appreciate you. >> Thanks, bro.

>> Brother, hello. >> Hello. >> Yo, yo. >> Yeah. What's up, man? Uh, can you just disconnect your Bluetooth if if it's on? >> Oh, uh, just a sec. Is that any better? >> Uh, testing testing. No, it is a lot worse. Sorry. >> All right. No, I'll come back for the next lap.

>> All right, man. No problem. Have a good night. Okay. It like it kept coming and going. I'm not sure that it was going to be a little bit, you know, pestering. >> Hello. >> Siskum, Sam, >> how are you doing? >> I'm doing just fine. How are you? >> Alhamdulillah. I'm good. Um, I got a

question for you, sis. >> What's up, man? And basically um the question is you know when um prophet Moses is flee the sea. >> Okay. >> Um scientifically that does not make sense because the sea is um 500 m deep. How is that possible? >> Uh it presumes that he I mean the sea is

not all going to be uniform first of all in terms of how deep it is. one uh two uh Allah subhana t is the one who does it through Mus Alam Mus Alam is not able to do this himself like he didn't vacuum the sea or something >> I understand that but the part that I

can't reconcile is it the fact that he had because in order for you to cross the sea you need to go down 500 m down and then walk through it but >> no that that presumes that presumes that that the sea is going to be uniform first of all. Secondly, when it comes to

the sea, there are certain aspects or areas, especially in Egypt actually, which I was just uh I was just there. Um not all of it is going to be uniform. There are some areas uh by that uh the Dead Sea uh or the Red Sea uh where there is um you know a a sort of like

area that's like the beach. Okay. So, it's not all just going to be like straight 500 ft down or anything. There's still, you know, you could just walk, I guess you could put it that way. But it's a miracle, brother. Like, it's not something that you're able to do every day. >> Okay. And how long was he going through

the sea? Like how long, >> brother? Allah, how long it was? I was not there. >> Okay. So, okay. Thank you very much, sister. >> No problem, bro.

All right, let's see.

Hello. Okay.

Hello. >> I just had a quick question. Uh I was just curious. I am a Muslim of course, but um prior to prayer being introduced to Islam, like was the rasool praying? Uh yeah, he would pray but obviously not in the same way that we pray today in a uniform manner. Um it would be you know

it was just more of supplication you could say more of like making dua or something right seeking forgiveness and so on but in a way that he would have seen fit at the time until he was given the right way to do it. >> And then the earliest of Muslims like do is there record like when they started

praying? >> What do you mean when they like of the Muslims? >> Yeah before the Muslims. Yeah, of course there is. in the hadith corpus. >> Oh, okay. But like prior to the full Quran being fully like um like given >> it would have been it would have been at whenever the command of prayer was given

within the Quran. So when that command was given of you know establishing the prayers uh that is when we would obviously see these hadiths appear and so on but even because of the fact that you know it's something which is massly it's like done on a mass scale essentially um it's something that we're

able to conclude is accurate and is the same as the time period from the prophet peace be upon himself. You understand? It's the same thing as like the Quran because the Quran is massly replicated and massly memorized and attested to uh we could safely conclude that it's the same as the Quran from the time of the

prophet peace be upon him. Make sense? >> I see. I see. I see. In my in my mind, I was trying to like put together like when all of the suras and like when there wasn't that many suras and a like what were people reciting during their prayer? >> Yeah. I mean, so no, they obviously the

the the aas came first. So for the first 10 years of Islam okay there was uh only the revelation essentially was being given and specifically it was pertaining to understanding to understanding the oneness of God. Okay after that first 10 years is when we start to see more of the legislation and such being given to

the people where they have to start following commands and obviously back then as well back during the 10 years too but it was little by little you understand. >> I see. >> Yeah. >> Anything else bro? >> No that's it. Sorry. Thank you. >> No problem.

>> Appreciate you, brother. Hakee.

>> Hi, Muslim. >> I'm sorry, you keep getting Muslims. Um, as a reaver, I was wondering if you had any recommendations for sources to to learn the religion and just to go deeper >> to learn. >> Yes. >> Uh, depends on what kind of information you're looking for. Uh, you said you're a reaver, right? How how long have you

been a reaver for? >> Uh, threeish years. >> Okay. Um, I mean, in terms of specific things, like, uh, is there is there anything in specific that you want to learn more about? Is it more of just like general knowledge? I could send you some Discord servers that has a lot of, you know, information in them if you'd

like. >> Uh, I'd say general knowledge. Um, it's that my fear has been knowing that there are so many different schools of thought, choosing the right one and not wanting to to go astray. I'd say general knowledge. >> Okay. Um, okay. So message me and after the live I'll send you a few Discord

servers where you could gain some general knowledge especially in regards to that topic. Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. No problem broken. >> Oh um also just an advice to if you live near a masjid I would recommend also going maybe to the head of the masjid and asking him if there's any courses

that they potentially know of or can offer um to help you learn about it as well. Okay. That's always an option too. Okay, ma'am. >> Thank you. >> No problem.

>> I have no clue who's a non-Muslim. Like, these are all I'm pretty sure everybody requesting is Muslim. It's okay. Hello. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Hello, Qua. >> What? Bobby, >> oh, I'm so sorry, sister. >> No problem. >> You did a very good job. >> I appreciate it, sis.

>> That was cute.

Hello, Josie. What are them kids requested? Josie, hello. I cannot hear you. Okay, goodbye, Josie. Try and re-erequest if you want. Uh, literally everybody requesting is Muslim. If you're a non-Muslim, feel free to request up that, bro. Also, if you've already been up here and you're Muslim, I don't I don't understand what we're So

many of us are requesting for, especially because a lot of you people are not even asking questions, man. And if you're Shia, go to Lebanon. Hello. >> Hello. >> Yeah. What's up man? >> Yes. Thank you sister for doing all this. Um as recently we have moved to US and alhamdulillah I'm from Muslim family

and uh I was wondering I needed your suggestion for my kids. Shall I uh hire online um teacher for my kids in order to learn or I have to take them physically to a mosque or madrasa? >> What is your >> learning learning learning in person is always more you know um beneficial but

if you don't have the option to go in person then yeah the next best thing would probably be doing it in online. >> Okay. Thank you so much. Yeah I'll try to take them in person. Thanks. Sorry, bro. It's not like

>> Hello. >> Hi. >> Yeah. What's up, man? >> Yeah. I I I don't think that I would be a Muslim for a couple reasons. >> Okay. Can you tell me what you are first? >> Yeah, I'm Christian. >> Okay, sure. What What reason do you have to reject Islam? What logical reason?

C couple reasons I've heard from Muslims who come up on my panel. They believe that you that drinking camel pee and drinking flies. Do you believe that eating cow [ __ ] is okay? >> I mean, do you think that eating flies is healthy? >> Do do you think that eating human [ __ ]

is okay? Cuz that's in the Bible. That's not in the Quran. >> Well, no. Eating eating [ __ ] is not good. >> It was commanded by God in the Bible. Well, you're sent to hell. >> You will eat cow [ __ ] and human [ __ ] on earth. >> Well, I just don't want to be

automatically sent to hell as Muslims are. >> I mean I mean he he commands you to eat human [ __ ] >> Is going to hell good? Like >> is eating human [ __ ] good? >> Yeah. It doesn't command that. >> Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

>> [laughter]

>> I haven't looked at this verse in so long and you just reminded me of it, man. Wow. Wow. Hold on. Wow. All right, guys. Let's Let's read. Let's read. Let's be serious, guys. Take wheat and barley, beans and lentils, millet and spelts. Put them in a storage jar and use them to make bread for

yourself. You are to eat it during the 390 days you lie on your side. Weigh out 20 shekels, not 50, of food to each day and eat it at set times. Also measure out a sixth of a hin of water and drink it at set times. Eat the food as you would a loaf of barley bread. Bake it in

the sight of the people using human excrement for fuel. The Lord said, "In this way, the people of Israel will eat defiled food among the nations where I will drive them." And I'm pretty sure the the Hebrew doesn't say the word fuel. Let's check the Hebrew real quick, guys. And said Yahweh, so shall eat the sons

of Israel, their bread defiled among the Gentiles, to which I will drive them. Oh, wait, no, it's the verse before it. and a cake of barley you shall eat it and with the dung of the excrement of a human you shall bake it before their eyes. Don't come to me talking about no

urine when you got to eat human kaka, bro. Please, please don't don't do that. Don't do that. All right, let's get the next person. All of a sudden, the Christians would request. That's crazy.

The Hebrew doesn't say fuel, dummy. >> Hello, >> Akudo. >> Hi. How are you? >> I'm good. How are you? >> I'm good, thank you. >> What's up? Are you Christian, Jewish, atheist? >> Yeah, I'm Christian. >> Okay. Do you have an argument as to why Christianity is true or do you have a

question about some? >> Um, no. I just literally wanted to respond to the prompt. I just read it. It said, "Why are you not Muslim?" So, I was like, >> "Okay." >> I thought I'd I was typing in the chat and then I was going to go and then I thought, "Let me request up."

>> No worries. What What logical reason do you have to not be a Muslim? >> Um, I actually kind of did like a bit of research, I think, when I was like a teenager >> and I was trying to kind of look up the suras and they didn't really make sense to me. I didn't really understand it.

like when you were reading it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When I was like reading it, trying to study, I was kind of like studying >> uh both the Bible and the suras, >> but I didn't really couldn't get a grasp on why I was reading it or what I had to do with the suras. So, I just kind of

like left it, if that makes sense. >> Uh well, so the Quran is written very differently in comparison to the typical books that we would read. Okay. It's not something that's written in chronological order, kind of like how we see the Bible from like Genesis all the way to Revelation, from the beginning to

the end, right? Um it's it's something that was revealed over the course of 23 years to one individual. Right? Now, each story each story of each of the prophets or anything of the sort that's mentioned within the Quran, we don't see them coming completely 100% in order. The only one that we see that for is for

Joseph, peace be upon him. Um that's in chapter 12 of the Quran. It's the only chapter in the Quran where a prophet story is written from beginning to end. Okay. Um the remaining prophets or the remaining stories within the Quran, the way that we are able to understand them is uh via the exa Jesus of the um

scholars. Okay. Uh this is what we call tap. I can show you if you'd like to know how to reach that. One second. >> Is it Can you Google it? >> Yeah. So this is this is quran.com. qur an.com and if you go for example let's go to chapter three um actually let's go to a

chapter where there is a prophet being spoken about we'll go to chapter 2 for example from verse 65 okay so um in this chapter right this is a story that we see with Moses in 67 okay it says and remember when Moses said to his people Allah commands you to sacrifice a cow

they replied are you mocking us Moses responded I seek refuge in Allah for acting foolishly so what we key is that God introduces a specific section of the prophet's story. Okay? And then it goes into detail of that particular um incident that occurs with the prophet and the lesson that can be taken from

it. Okay? >> You understand? >> So when we if you want to know like the entire story of a prophet for example in Islam uh or the entire context of this specific story we would go here the the exesus this is called. So when you go to the verse here on the website, there's a

little book icon over here and it says >> Yeah. >> Okay. And you could click it and read, you know, in context what the story is referring to. You could go to the next, keep reading. Yeah. >> Okay. I think that's probably Oh, oops. My finger >> and also the version that you may read

as well. >> I think she probably wants to go type it in. The website's called quran.com.

I can't I can't hear you when you leave the screen, by the way. Akudo, I'll give her a minute.

Oh, I think she might have lost connection. It's okay.

>> Hello. >> What's going on? >> Nothing so much, man. How are you? >> Um, I'm doing great. Yeah, I had a great day. >> Amazing. I love that freedom. >> Okay. Um, can you tell me what you believe in? >> I believe in the one true Hebrew God. Hebrew god. Okay. Is he like the god of

the universe? Is he God of just the Hebrews? What is he? >> He's the beginning and and the and the last. He's he's um he is who he says he is. >> He created all. >> So like is he is his ethnicity like is the language that he spoke Hebrew? What was his ethnicity like? Was he Arab? Was

he was he Jewish? Well, I don't think that really matters. I think you're talking about where he was located. Yeah. >> On the globe, >> where he was located on his his creation. >> Yeah. >> Um he would have been, you know, smart enough obviously to speak the native language. Um being he he did wear

the you know, human. Slow down. Slow down. Sorry. He did put on he did put on too fast for me. So you believed God was a man. I never said that God was a man. >> Well, you just said he put on flesh and he >> I mean, you could say you could say that

um his earthly like image was that of of a male. >> So, so, okay, so just so I can get this right. Okay. >> You believe God was on earth and he was a man, right? >> Yeah, you could say you could say that. Yeah, but that's just a flesh. >> Okay, cool. So my question for you real

quick though moving forward you can ask me all the questions you want. >> Go ahead. >> Do you think that it is above Allah that he could take on human form if he's so pleased? >> Well there's nothing above Allah but there are things that are called contradictions. Right. This is something that contradicts God's nature

>> even according to your book because God is greater greater than his creation. Nothing can limit him, right? So he being the great and mighty God. Okay. He is bigger than all of creation. Correct. >> Yeah. But that comes down to why why are we are even needed as human beings? That's a different question completely.

>> Why does God call us to that at all? Sir, >> why does that from what I >> Yeah, but wait a second. Think about this. Think about a cake maker. A cake gets eaten, it's used, it's gone. Think of the cake maker. Can the cake maker become a cake? >> That's what I'm saying. Can the cake

maker become a cake? >> Yeah. >> No, because the cake is not actually um it's not like human. Okay. It's it's more of like um >> can God become a rock >> material? >> Why would God become a rock? >> I didn't ask you why. I said can he? I I mean that I think that they've

called him the uh >> No, I didn't say call him. I'm saying can he if he chooses can he become a rock? >> He's been called the rock. >> I didn't ask if he was called the rock. I'm asking you can he become a rock >> if he God can do whatever he wants to.

>> So you believe God can become a rock. Yes. >> If he so ch if he so chooses. >> Cool. Can God become Satan? >> Can God become Satan? >> Mhm. I don't believe that God could become evil. No, that's something I do not believe. >> Well, Satan chooses to be evil, right?

>> Um, yeah, he's uh has his own God becomes Satan and then become good. >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. We He's like if he was a fallen angel. Okay. Lucifer. >> Mhm. >> Lucifer is kind of like has a free will like you and I, right? You you choose Wait, wait, wait, wait. You think Do you

believe in Wait a minute. You believe all the questions? Are you scared of a question? I know, but you're scared of a question. If you want to ask questions, go open up your own live. Okay. This is my life. >> Wow. Okay. >> Yes. This is my life. You You go by my

rules here, not the other way around. Do you ever go into >> Your live says, "Why am I not Muslim?" >> Do you go into other people's lives or houses or anything of the sort and just do whatever you want? >> No. Right. It's not proper. It's rude. It's Oh, okay. So again, my questionals

question, sir. Yes. I'm showing you why Christianity is false. Okay. >> So, God can do you literally just told me God can do whatever he chooses. Correct. >> Yeah. Why a law can do the same thing, right? >> Okay. Well, I don't I don't understand that statement the same way that you do.

Can God choose? >> Oh, you're you're going to tell me what a law can and can't do. Go ahead. >> Yeah. Because there's there's such things as >> tell me what a law can and can't do. >> Brother, you're not going to do this. Okay. >> Nice pivot. Nice pivot. Genius. >> You're the one who's literally

[laughter] pivoting. >> Yeah. Yeah. You can answer your own question. >> All right. Let me Hey, Liam. Liam. Crush out in the comments. Go crush out in the comments, bro. It's okay. It's all right, Mom. Your God can become Satan. He can become a rock. It's okay. There's no issue. Hello. Yeah, it seems that you might be as

illiterate as your prophet. >> It seems you might be as big of a EDF as Yahweh, man. It's okay. >> I don't know. That that beard was looking a little weird, man. >> Maybe you're as dumb as a rock as the guy before you. I don't know.

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Hello Self-love hash new me. All right. Goodbye. I guess she don't love herself. Uh, okay. Ain't no hate like Christian love, man. Hello. >> Hey, how's it going? >> Yeah, what's up, man? >> Yeah. So, I apologize. Uh there's definitely some some Christians that uh yeah, very bad witnesses tonight. So I apologize.

>> It's all good. Don't worry about it. >> I wanted to Oh, Catholic, by the way. >> All right. >> Um so I wanted to kind of do what the uh one woman had done where she said like how she or why she decided she wouldn't be a Muslim. I had researched it as a

teenager pretty seriously >> and um I ordered a Quran um the other day. >> All right. >> And just thought it'd be good to have like a physical book. Um but for me, one of the reasons why I didn't why I rejected it is because it seemed inconsistent with the story of uh the Old Testament.

In what in what respect was it inconsistent? So like you know for instance a lot of the times uh lowhanging fruit for Christian debaters will be Sora 1094 but I think even deeper than that um it's kind of the idea of like I [sighs and gasps] just I don't know how else to like I'll give an example

like I was talking to an atheist on a Tik Tok a couple months ago and it was really kind of obnoxious because I said okay how do we know uh you take the Odyssey And I was like, "Are you familiar?" He said, "Yeah, yeah. Iliad, the Odyssey." I said, "How do we really

know what Homer wrote, etc." So, what I was trying to say is, you know, there was 500 years where we had no idea what we don't have the original copy of, you know, the Iliad and the Odyssey, but we have like a sense of what it might have been, right? Pretty close to it.

>> Okay. And so I would say the same thing when it comes to, you know, the Quran and and and Tanakh and the New Testament is, you know, it's I I kept like it really bothered me because I was like, "Okay, would there have been, you know, Jews in uh Arabia in the 7th century? would

there have been access to the 24 books of what was pretty much, you know, a canonized Jewish Old Testament? And the answer is yes. And so things that bothered me like how does Muhammad not know the difference between >> not not necessarily not not in the in the language that the majority of the

people would have spoke, it would have been in Hebrew. It was still just being translated into Arabic and such at that time or if not later on. the first I think earliest Quran that we find sorry uh Bible that we find in Arabic comes much much later. Um but um it also it

also assumes well let me let me let you finish. Go ahead. What you want to say? Well, I was going to say I and you know I would imagine it would have been in Arabic, but just even in general like if he's interacting um with, you know, Jewish rabbis and uh you know, you would

think that he would have known the difference between the Torah and the Tanakh, you know, and I don't want to sound I'm not trying to sound disrespectful, I promise, but like it's things like that where it's like, okay, you have to >> know the difference between the Torah and Tanakh. So like for instance, you

know, like he'll, you know, in the Quran it'll quote um like something that's from Torah, but it's actually a story that's outside of the five books. >> Okay. But you do know that the word Torah is used to refer to things outside of the five books, even within the New Testament as well, right?

>> I do. And that's what bothered me too because of course even in the New Testament. >> There's no issue with it, though. Like it was it was used as a reference. It's it's regarding what the people understand it to be, not in reference because some instances the Quran uses the term Torah to refer specifically to

what was given to Moses. It doesn't even say five books, right? And in other instances, it's referring to Torah as in what the people understand the Torah to be. And generally speaking, they understand quote unquote Torah to either be those five books or to be the entirety of the Old Testament. There's no issue with that.

And I and I think I will say when I've heard like Christian debaters, you know, talk about that, I will say to a degree I think that's a defense a good defense because, you know, it's not like the Quran is going to say specifically Deuteronomy or whatever. Um, but I guess too, you know, there's other things for

me where it's like the the consistency, the continuity isn't there. So like if you like I'll give you an example. So, you know, of course, we don't have the original Torah that was written whenever it was written for the very first time, right? When oral tradition when when the language became something on scroll,

right? >> Okay. Um but but even by the time of Christ, you um you have uh Jewish texts that don't have the um the calling, whatever you want to say, they don't have the um authority of the Holy Spirit of Yahweh. And and that's evidenced in tech, you know, gnostic. Okay. Yeah. But that that also the

theology as well. What do you mean? Confirm. >> So for example, like in early Christianity, right, there wasn't one set cannon. Even now, there isn't technically speaking one set cannon across Christianity. But let's just stick to Catholicism. Even there wasn't one set cannon that everybody agreed on for like the first 300 years of

Christianity, right? Even um for example, the book of Revelation was not one of the books that was included in the canon until much much later, right? It was one of it was actually the last book to be included. So uh to and and there are some books even that were included that are no longer included now

and vice versa. So it's not it's not just one or two books. It's a multitude of different books that were either included or not included prior. Not only that, but there were even some cannons that we find early within Christianity that don't even reflect the cannons that we have today. Right. >> What would be an example?

>> So the Morritorian cannon. Have you heard of it? >> I have. >> Yeah. So the Morritorian cannon for example. >> Let's be fair to those in the chat. I mean he was yeah he was so fringe you know what I mean to be fair so was pretty >> fringe my my point being is that there

was not one set cannon that like for example like if we were going to go back to Ucius or to Araneeus or any of these individuals that come from early Christianity right they don't have one set cannon that they all agree on or that they're all reading from or anything right and even for the ones

that they did agree on they didn't agree on all of the ones together correct >> so the the things are being sort you know, uh, assumed in regards to theology. >> But I guess I would say though too, like there's a difference between saying things like the 27 books of the New Testament with the athanasius, you know,

New Testament in the 3rd century. There's that or, you know, essentially even even before it was uh, even when the temple still existed and rabbitic Judaism still hadn't, you know, flourished entirely out of necessity, you still have books that are, you know, tried and true. So, what I'm getting at is like you can't have some random

person in, you know, 2 century BC uh write the apocalypse of Adam and the Jewish community is going to go >> Yeah, that's and that's what I'm saying. You can't say like, oh, you know, >> I think that some of those books would still contain some truth in them probably because >> Go ahead. Go ahead.

>> Well, I was going to say but but like for instance, even when you talk about like um what is it um the book of Jubilee? Jubilees, right? which is Genesis with a little more things, right? Or or you know, Enoch. There's there's things that have truth, but there were clearly things that were

rejected by the Jews to the point where even first >> now for the Catholics like you accept the book of wisdoms, right? >> Correct. >> But they don't they don't accept the book of wisdom within their >> they who >> the Jews. >> Oh, sure. Sure. Absolutely. Sorry. That that goes without saying. Um but but

that's also because of the influence. I mean there's there's rabbitic Judaism especially after uh mymonades in the 12th century and then there's like that's that's a very different Judaism than 2,000 years ago. I know they say that >> that assumes that you know what Judaism 2,000 years ago or Judaism 3,000 years ago would have been right. We don't find

any cannons that include the book of wisdom for example for the Jews. >> But what let me let me let me stop interrupting you. What what specifically is the point you're trying to make the continuity aspect? >> So sorry. Yeah. So, so what I would say is this, like if you if you're saying

that so, so it's the seventh century and Muhammad over the course of 23 years, Quran is revealed to him, I would think that that that um that text, that revelation would really be icing on the cake. That was absolutely necessary. Um because for instance, like you said, Revelation was very controversial. Um and whether

Christians want to admit it or not, for a lot of reasons. um to the point where um you know when Muhammad was writing the Quran um St. John Chrisum was like oh it was just another like misunder you know another Christian sect they were just they were confused about some things. So what I'm saying though is the

Quran would have been something that validated that which was very clear in scripture and it doesn't do that. So, I've said this often, but Islam is really the first religion in the history of the world where it says, "Okay, all the stuff they had that's some of it's okay, but like most of it is wrong." And that

didn't even necessarily happen right away. I mean, you could argue Buddhism a little bit maybe with Hinduism, but like Islam again going going back to 1094 um it it to me evidence shows historically that what until the 11th century uh Muslims weren't like consistently writing against um Christian and Jewish text. Is that

correct? >> Uh no, not necessarily. we do find many um you know things in the Arabic language where scholars were talking about against the Jews or against the Christian texts and such um but moreover um even if they didn't it doesn't negate like they they did because they talk about the fact that the Quran itself

doesn't affirm the entirety of the books um and that would be the majority position that the scholars within the first three centuries of Islam held to um but moreover >> is that in the hadith >> it is it's no so it's in the scholars texts and it's in the um >> uh you can find hadiths that talk about

it. Uh there is Iban Abbass. I could actually bring you >> one second >> because the only one I've ever heard of is I think what is it? Ibn Hazam if I'm I'm probably mispronouncing that. But >> no, this one's Iban Abbas. So this is the cousin of the prophet peace be upon

him.

So um he says uh Ibn Abbas said why do you ask the people of the scripture about anything while your book the Quran which has been revealed to Allah's messenger sallallahu alaihi wasallam is newer and the latest you read it pure undistorted and unchanged and Allah has told you that the people of the

scripture Jews and Christians changed their scripture and distorted it and wrote the scripture with their own hands and said it is from Allah to sell it for a little gain. Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything? No. By Allah, we have never seen any man from

them asking you regarding what has been revealed to you. So, we could clearly see that at the time of the prophet peace be upon him, it it was you know known what those verses about, you know, changing the scriptures and stuff was about because that's that's his cousin and on top of that he's not just a

random cousin. um he was uh so the prophet peace be upon him had made a supplication for him to receive the proper interpretation according to our belief of of the Quran. So when he gives an exes Jesus of something he's actually giving it based off of you know knowledge that is granted to him or um

you could say granted to him not in the sense of like a prophet but more of like you know just uh an inspiration of being able to have a proper understanding you could put it that way. >> Okay. But yeah. >> Yeah. I guess like I said, for me it's um I just feel like there's not enough

and and I haven't read the Hadith. And like I said, it's been a long time since I've read the Quran, but I I've never really read anything and and I appreciate what you just read. I've never really read anything where it's like early on that there was clear theological difference between the Jews and the

Christians. Like I think that when Muhammad is having I guess >> between the Jews and the Christians within Islam or within like just historically speaking. >> Correct. I I there's obviously evidence that other Arabian tribes did not like him because they were he was messing up there, you know, with the pagans and

everything >> that that wouldn't follow the Quran. So the Quran itself makes a huge diff theological claim against Christianity, right? The basis let's let's put it this way, right? The basis of Christianity is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Right. Without it, it says that your faith would be for nothing.

Right. >> Right. >> But the Quran actively goes against that and it says that Jesus was neither killed nor crucified rather it was made to appear so. So it's actively negating the crucifixion aspect. Ergo negating the resurrection aspect as well. Ergo negating the entirety of the Christian creed or theology the basis of it.

>> Right? That's only one aspect. The other aspect would be the aspect of the trinity. In regards to the Jewish aspect, it constantly condemns them in terms of changing the laws of God. >> The Jewish aspect. What do you mean? Why would you >> like with with the Jews? No, no, not with the the Godhead. I'm saying with

the Jewish like the Jews, the with the thing that the the Quran accuses them of is that they used to change the words of God and they used to hide things that God used to reveal to them or they would try to find loopholes and stuff like that. The Quran itself says these

things. Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, so, so you're saying to me, your contention is that the Quran, it is very explicit that um over the course of even if it wasn't immediately, that doesn't bother me. But you're saying over the course of 23 years by the end when it was done being written when the

revelation at least had end ended for Muhammad um it was clear that he and his closest companions knew that there was clear identifiable companions not just the closest companions even the most so they knew there there was no question that they knew that there was >> theological differences between them Islam Um because because even there's

there's a very clear verse in the Quran that says the only religion accepted by God is Islam or the only way of life here. That's actually this one's even clearer than what I'm saying. >> Let's see. Obviously Islam and Christianity is not the same thing, right? Uh and Islam and Judaism is not

the same thing if it actively categorizes the people from those groups as different people. Right? Uh this is 385. It says whoever seeks a way other than Islam, it will never be accepted from them and in the hereafter they will be among the losers. So anybody who's going you know uh and saying that they're a

Christian at the time of Muhammad peace be upon him and they pass away for example Muhammad peace be upon him he actually used to get upset over that right he used to be sad that a disbeliever passed away as a disbeliever because he felt like a you know I could have maybe had a chance to be able to to

spread the message to them and be able to you know guide them to Asam for example because he knew what the end of their their life meant for them right which is that they would end in the in the eternal hellfire. So, like the one that I think the ones that came up this

um maybe they didn't come up with this, but they kind of made it popular with uh Mike Jones and David Wood, the Islamic dilemma. They're they're being disingenuous. They're not telling the whole story. Of course, >> maybe maybe in the first year or two, Muhammad didn't know that there was >> the first the first year or two wasn't

even the first 10 years rather, I'll grant you wasn't really about this stuff, right? The first 10 years that the prophet peace be upon him was preaching Islam was mainly about the oneness of God. It was to to give the people because you have to remember who the people are that he's coming to. And

that also ties into that Islamic dilemma that he brings that they bring up as well. The first 10 years he's preaching to a bunch of Arab pagans. He's not even like he's barely interacting with Christians and Jews to begin with. He's preaching to the Arab pagans that believe that there was a God for every

single day of the year. Right. Right. >> And he has to like basically start from the ground up and teach them no, there's actually only one God, not 365 or something. Right. >> Right. So that's that's the first 10 years of his message. It's not really going for the Christians and the Jews

and anybody else. You understand? Okay. >> Then later on is when we start to see that incorporation more and more. Now for 1094 when it talks about the if you are in doubt aspect, right? This is actually in reference specifically to the those same Arab pagans, right? Cuz again you have to remember they don't have a lot of

interaction with Jews and Christians to begin with. Okay? And they so they are not really going to know about the stories that the Jews and Christians know about. Right? So for example, they hear in the Quran there's a man named Moses who split the sea. >> But wait a minute, I've never ever heard

of a story of a man splitting the sea before. That sounds like crazy talk, right? So it tells them to go ask those who read the scripture before you. So, for example, there would be Muslims that uh that used to be Jews or Christians that would have read those stories in the prior scripture and they would tell

them, "Hey, uh did you guys used to read this in your prior scripture?" And they'd be like, "Yeah, we did." Right? That's that's what that verse is talking about. It's not saying every single aspect of the Bible is correct or anything like that. So you're saying in surah chap you're saying in surah 10

that Muhammad is specifically even if it's not chronologically but I I'd imagine it was fairly early on he was talking to the pagans and at the very least to try to move the needle closer to what eventually would become the divine revelation he's saying look if you think I'm off fine go talk to the

Christians and Jews and they'll confirm what I'm saying >> right and even the confirmation aspect here as well is also referring to his prophethhood like as we believe right? His prophethood being a a sign within those prior scriptures that he himself was also prophesied about or that Islam was prophesied about and so on. Right?

And they would go and ask about those same questions to those same Muslims who used to be Jews or Christians. There's one example um the um he was a Jewish rabbi named Abdullah bin Salam in the time of the prophet peace be upon him who became a Muslim because he he interpreted Isaiah 42 to be about an

Arabian prophet which was what he believed Muhammad peace be upon him. You understand? So it was it was for those two specific reasons. One to understand that the basis of each of the stories, these key points that happen in the stories, they are what what allow us to know that this is referring to the same

person. Man split the sea. Man split the sea. His name was Moses. Here his name is MS or Moses in English, right? Um and in Hebrew it's Moshe and so on, right? If you find these key markers, you obviously know it's referring to the same person. Now the only difference obviously is that the Quran it also

actively goes against specific narrative or specific details that are spoken about within these stories. Like for example it it it'll make it very clear too that it's doing that. So like um for example with Solomon the Bible says that Solomon essentially apostated right that he had went and worshiped other gods. Okay. And he should have been stoned and

alive for that but he never received any punishment. Okay. The Quran actively goes against that narrative and it says Solomon never disbelieved. It makes it very immensely clear like whether whether you believe he did this or that he never actually apostated. You understand? >> Mhm. >> Right. So this is this is like what we

what we call it to be general confirmation and a conscious edit. Okay. The Quran generally confirms these prior revelations but it actively or consciously goes against specific narratives within them. A big one was the the example that I gave you with the crucifixion as well, >> right? >> Yeah. >> No, and I think that's I mean, you know,

a lot of the times when I hear Christians debate Muslims, it's I mean, you're getting to the point where you're almost inputting your own, >> you know, and assumptions. >> Well, you're you're critiquing, you know, Arabic or Arabian literature, writing techniques, and it's like you weren't there, so you I Okay, fair enough. I guess like I said, I mean for

me if if I'm reading something that was written 700 years after the death death and resurrection of Christ and it's taking some things from Christianity and some things from Judaism and it's kind of making this, you know, this is good, this is not true. You know what I mean? Like it to me that's not how Tanakh

works, right? I mean, if you and obviously you have the the prophets, the writings, and the law, but there's nothing necessarily in Malach I mean, there's nothing in Malachi that negates anything that Moses would have written, right? It's not like you're like, "Oh, I got to reconcile. I'm reading Daniel and this makes no sense from what I read in

Joshua." It's very confusing. You know what I mean? And when you're reading um uh Quran, it's like, okay, well, I have to just immediately accept that the story, you know, certain details in uh Joshua or excuse me, Joseph and Moses, like there's just certain >> details. The only reason why you would accept it, okay, to to make it very

easy, right? The only reason why you would accept it is if we could prove the Quran to actually be something that comes from an uh the the all- knowing creator. Okay? If it's a case it does, then it would be the case that we would follow it. And the way that we would do

that isn't via historical um uh uh attestation or anything of the sort rather we would do it through metaphysical certainty. Okay. The metaphysical certainty that we would use obviously it would be a simple you know argument in regards to um abduction. Uh we would come to the conclusion that because you know God is all knowing he's

the only one that's going to be able to know things about the future. Ergo, if there is evidence or sufficient evidence rather um that indicates that you know there are certain things that the prophet peace be upon him received about the future that nobody would know at that time period then it raises the

probability of ascent being true. The more that we do that for those things that he has you know said to us or anything of the sort the more likely it is uh that it would be uh yeah inductive but uh the the more likely it is that he would um be a true prophet. You

understand? >> Right. And of course, according to what Moses said before he died, but I mean, like I said, for me, it's like, you know, the Quran just in terms of a prophetic book, it just it's not like I can say, okay, Isaiah, Jeremiah, all the major and minor prophets, they are on

par with the Quran. It's just a continuation for me. That's just impossible to say because in in the case of any of the you know other books in Tanakh none of them are so while it's hard to understand a lot of it none of it is just so like wait a minute that absolutely doesn't make

sense in context of a previous book and that did happen right we have we have reference to that >> we don't we don't believe that about the old testament for the most part we believe that the old testament when it comes to or at least the position that many of the scholars held is that the

Old Testament um is not as um you know as you could say quote unquote lost as the New Testament. Okay. Now the only issues that we would have is things like um the hiding of Muhammad peace be upon him being there. Okay, for example, uh things like specific laws being changed intentionally, right? Uh even some

things could be unintentional as well. It could be due to scribal errors and so on because we don't actually know what originally was there. Okay. In fact, there's there's many traditions that the Jews have where they believe that the Torah would have been lost for a period of time as well. Okay. So, point being,

right, it's not about, you know, what the the Bible in terms of the Old Testament and New Testament agreeing on because by the 3rd century BC to the 1st century BC, you could say, the text has become pretty much quote unquote fixed for the Old Testament. So, there's not much change that's happening anymore

after that. Whereas for the >> What do you mean by fixed? like as in we we know from uh for the most part what the text actually says, right? Because we have at this time we see things like the Greek Septuagen up here. We uh the quoteunquote Dead Sea Scrolls, the the um what was the other one? Uh Samaritan

text, right? These three texts, they come around the same time period, though they have some differences between them. Um for the most part, the text is not um you know, open to manipulation as much as you could say. Uh as much as before you could say, you understand? We don't have anything earlier than that though.

So even like the discovery of the dead sea scrolls in 48 that would be irrelevant because by the time uh you know those were being you know copied whatever uh the theological truth had been corrupted >> right that's what we would say as as from our position at least right hence the reason why other prophets are being

sent down right Jesus it being that final prophet for from our perspective at least for the Jews okay and then they still reject him and now we don't even have what would have been considered the gospel that was given to Jesus by God, right? We have uh remnants of it within what other people claim that he was

saying. You understand? >> Okay. So, like you know uh either explicitly stated or oral tradition that says the Jews would have killed all the prophets. Um why would they finish why would they like if they killed if they killed Jeremiah, why would they write a book called Jeremiah? Because actually that's a that's a very interesting

question. >> Just be some things are true and some things aren't. >> That's a very interesting question and you know actually why it's the case or how it's the case that they did this. They used to have Jews the way that it operates for them, right? A lot of and Jeremiah is a very very good example of

this. They used to have councils of sages, right? And these sages essentially would be a bunch of old people who would basically verify whether or they were they were the higher ups basically of their of their people, right? and they were the ones who would verify whether or not they were true prophets. Okay? In Jeremiah's

case specifically, they didn't realize he was a true prophet until after he passed away. Okay? And that that happened with many of the prophets. And even Jesus himself also says that he says that they used to unal alive many of the prophets and so on. Right? He he says you beat one, stoned another,

killed a third, and God sent you more servants and you did the same thing to the last uh to to them as well. Right. Yes. Okay. So, Moses said, "I'm going to, you know, those that kind of continue um prophesying." Uh, you know, I'm trying to think of how to say it, but like um

Okay. Okay. That's fine. Yeah. I [sighs] Okay. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I guess that there would be nothing more to say about that. I mean, just like I said, I mean, if you're saying that the Jewish texts were corrupted well before the birth of Christ, um, or I guess maybe there's been no definitive revelation of when

that did occur, um, intentional or not >> and then I guess with the gospels, your argument would be what exactly >> that that they are not it's not what God >> like the was lost, never found. >> Not that the angel is lost. We don't believe that, you know, for example, Jesus would have had to have a literal

writing that he had like written down. Okay? It could have been something that was oral that was given to him orally because we believe all the prophets nobody actually like received something physical aside from maybe Moses, right? But even then, the entirety of the book wasn't oral or sorry, written for Moses, right? It wasn't like a book fell from

the sky. Uh it would have been oral and he would have went around preaching this message to the people, right? many people would have been writing some of this message down, right? The only issue that we have today is that we have these four gospels that are not onetoone as one another, right? Whereas, you know,

when it comes to the Quran, the Quran is one to one with every Quran that we could find in terms of 114 chapters and so on, right? Um uh these four but gospels. >> So your issue Muslims issues it. >> Sorry. Sorry. >> So, I was going to say, so one of the

issues that um one of the issues that Islam has is that there's not the same number of chapters in the four gospels. >> No, no, no, no. The issue the issue specifically is that there is no there's no like uh certainty within this text because it's coming from the perspective of a specific individual. Okay? It's not

coming as you know this is the revelation that God gave to Jesus directly. It's not the verbatim revelation that he gave him. You understand? Like for example, the ten commandments, right? The ten commandments are a verbatim revelation that God gave Moses. Right? You understand what I'm saying? >> Right. For those that believe. Correct.

>> Right. Right. So, so my point being, okay, what we find or rather the issue that we would have as Muslims is that as well as the fact what we understand the gospel to be today is going to be that there are remnants of what Jesus was given within these four gospel accounts.

Okay? So, we don't say the totality of it is completely gone or anything. That would just be absurd, right? We would say that there is remnants that we could find of Jesus's message that he was given by God within these four gospel accounts. Not its entirety obviously, but within it. >> Okay. >> Yeah.

>> Okay. Fair enough. >> All right, man. I mean, listen, the the these these type of guys that you mentioned earlier, it's it can get very confusing if you know you keep listening to them over and over again when it comes to the stuff that they try to portray Islam as, right? But it's

actually it's a lot more clear-cut than you know they try to make it out to be. It's just because the argument has become so popularized now by them that they think that it's actually something good when in reality like there's answers for this stuff from you know the first two generations of Muslims.

>> Yeah. I mean I would say that in terms of what you know especially with uh God logic and uh Mike Jones try to say in terms of like the Islamic dilemma they definitely puff it up way more than it is. But I would also say that there's uh some there's strong validity to um you

know the fact that there was there was some early leadership that kind of had to reconcile um >> no it wasn't a reconciliation or anything. It was more just of them stating hey this is what we believe right there. Many of the times when the companions are speaking, for example, it's because they're speaking to the

next generation of people and they're telling them or informing them what we believe specifically, right? Like kind of like when you go to school, right? Um when you go and you learn, I don't know, algebra 1, okay? The math teacher isn't like, you know, having to establish something for you that you had an a

misconception on. What they're doing specifically is that they're, you know, informing you of new information. Right. >> Right. So, it's it would be exactly the same thing. the the one that came from the generation prior teaches the one from the generation after. >> Yeah. But I guess the issue would be too I mean using algebra if you're talking

about you know polomials and you're telling me something about coefficients and what what the um you know whatever the the process to solve an equation is uh you know goes against basic subtraction and addition. You know what I mean? That's that's what I think happens when it comes to like the revelation of the Quran, right?

>> No, no. The the the Quran and the the theology was very well known within like the core the core fundamentals of the religion. It would have been known because like I showed you the verses in the Quran, they're very explicit and clear in regards to what we do or don't believe as it pertains to Christianity

and Judaism, right? In regards to the main theological points, right? like the crucifixion or even accepting the belief system itself, right? Each of them is very clear, right? The Quran, it makes it very clear there is no way that you could enter paradise or there you would never be able to enter paradise unless

you accept Islam as the way, right? It it doesn't become more clear than that. >> One one final >> Go ahead. Go ahead. >> I was going to say just one final question. Would would you say that um in 7th century Arabia uh would Muhammad have direct interaction with Christians? uh in 7th century Arabia. Yeah, he did.

>> How How would that be possible? >> What do you mean? How would there was Christians living in 7th century Arabia? >> Who were they? >> I'm just trying to like So, >> there's there's different kinds. So, for example, Heracleas um he was one of the kings. He wasn't in Arabia specifically, but Heraclus interacted with him via

letters. Um, we know that Najeshi, the king of Ethiopia, interacted with the prophet peace be upon him as well through letters. And we actually have many of these writings today as well. Um, who else? Uh, his uncle, one of not his uncle, his wife's um uncle. So, I guess you could say like his uncle

through his wife or whatever. >> Thought it was his cousin. >> No, no, it wasn't his cousin. >> No, it wasn't his cousin. It was her uncle, right? He was a Christian. Khadijah, his wife was also a Christian. Um, who else? Um there's there's there's many of them there. The um Salman Salman al- Farese I

believe was also either Jewish or Christian as as I told you before. Okay. Uh Abdullah Abdullahbam is also a Jew was also a Jew. Sorry. Um there's many many different people who were Jews or Christians that later became Muslim because of the prophet peace be upon him. So >> I guess reason but yeah go ahead. Yeah,

I guess the only reason why I would bring that up is because the majority in in that time, I mean, I would say 99% of uh I guess if you want to say Christians in the area would have been historians. And I think that like that was one of the things that bothered me too is like

I could see the correlation between if he interacted with historians, he would have absolutely had a lot of their theology um incorporated into the Quran. Right? So things >> we don't see any theology. We don't see any theology in regards because the main issue in historians is in regards to the deity of Jesus, right? It's not to do

really much with the deity like the godhead itself. Okay. So the issue the issue is that we don't actually observe uh the Quran talking about the deity of Christ, right? It doesn't talk about him being half man, half god. It doesn't say that he had xyz traits according to the Christians. The Quran speaks from a

general account of the trinity and says do not say three. Okay? It speaks very specifically in regards to the crucifixion aspect, the theological aspect, right? And says that there is no crucifixion. There was no crucifixion that actually took place in regards to Jesus, right? It was just made to appear. So, so it doesn't uh what the

Quran does is that it's not going to say, "Hey, this specific one is wrong." It's saying, "No, all of these understandings are wrong." You understand? >> Yeah, I think that's fair. Fair enough. Awesome. I appreciate it. Really good conversation. >> Of course, man. Feel free to always come back. Okay. >> Sounds good. All right. Bye.

>> Have a good one, bro. Bye. >> All right, guys. I am going to call it here. Inshallah. >> Um, what's it called? Unitarian Christian. I saw I saw you commenting, but it's it's past my it's getting past my time. So, but I was watching your debate with uh Sam right now or earlier

today. Um, I didn't really pay attention too much, but I will pay attention more. Uh, I saw you argue with him, I think, with Galatians for no 1 Corinthians 8. And I don't know why he was like low-key crashing out about um Genesis 1 every time you guys mentioned it. So, you and

Mike at least. That's the only part I got up to so far. Anyway, guys, I'm going to call it a night, inshallah. I appreciate all of you guys for coming. Um, may Allahh bless all you Muslims on the YouTube and guide all of the non-Muslims to you guys.