ORDINARY EXCELLENCE: The story of Grant Fisher

Can you talk about getting the call in 2023 about partnering together and training independently? >> You want to know about the call? I'll tell you exactly what the call was. [music] I was playing in a charity golf tournament [music] on hole number eight and he called me and I, you know, when Grant calls, it's like my kids. I have a

rule. If my kids call, [music] I answer the phone. >> I've been really successful in my old situation on empowerment. >> The new American record, >> the American record in the 3K, the 5K, and the 10K. I'd been fourth at world championships, but >> I was still desiring a little something more. I wanted Olympic medals and uh I

wanted to make a change. >> I take the phone away from my face and I'm like, did he just ask me that? Because if Grant Fischer asks you to coach him again, you say yes. [music] >> We got to talk about Grant Fischer leaving the Bowerman Trauma. >> I guess it kind of comes to shock. He's

going into the most important season of his life and then he decides to walk away from the most successful group out there at the time. Of course, there were a lot of critics. >> Ran Fisher is America's top long-distance runner and he just left his training. >> When you make a big change, especially

in a high stakes [music] moment like going into an Olympic year, there's certainly doubts. And then after he walks away, the next question is, but where is he going to walk to? >> The answer was he's going to walk back to his [music] high school coach. People saying, "Well, who is this guy? Has he

ever coached anybody?" >> I said, "What do you want to do?" That was like my first question. And he said, "I want to get on the podium in Paris." [music] >> Oh man, it feels so good to have it done. But the man from Michigan. >> Each of those moments, I feel pressure.